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ChicagoRy 11-01-2007 05:43 PM

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pretty standard

im contemplating if whether or not i should make a poo-bah post

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Do it.

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Any thoughts as to the topic you'd write about?

No more mentality/bankroll threads. We've had a few good ones recently.

xSCWx 11-01-2007 05:44 PM

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pretty standard

im contemplating if whether or not i should make a poo-bah post

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Do it.

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some of my hesitation comes from how much it favors lurkers to have tons of info jammed into one post

im coaching now too so it seems like a bad idea publish a big post when im basically being paid to give it to others

i think i might draw a picture in illustrator or something

ChicagoRy 11-01-2007 05:47 PM

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The purpose of a Poo Bah post is to give back to the forum where you learned a lot from.

Most people would qualify under the "I took more than I gave" when they started posting here.

Obviously if you're good enough to make a decent poo bah you're going to be giving away something you could sell at least for a small amount of money, but that's not the point. There are a lot of hypocrisies in that kind of attitude but that's another debate.

daveT 11-01-2007 06:22 PM

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wow, he 29 posts in of that?

xSCWx, what chicagoRy said. I have taken waaaaay more from this forum that I can ever hope to give back. There are concepts that I hold dear to my heart that I would have never learned if it wasn't for reading this forum and building a solid foundation. To add, you are in one of the least bs filled forums, and you probably learned a ton more faster than you would if you spend the last year in other small stake forums.

Also, there are concepts that simply cannot be written. Just write about how to beat weaker players. If you impact a small stakes loser enough then that poster is likely to look you up in the future when he (no need for she, right?) needs a coach. If it isn't for the small info you give, many players will never become good enough to afford you.

cwar 11-01-2007 06:53 PM

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Little morning Razz sesh.
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/5...sessiondh0.jpg

daveT 11-01-2007 07:15 PM

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I think Razz is the fishiest of all games, and it's so logical and easy. Nice adventure.

xSCWx 11-01-2007 07:47 PM

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I give back to the forums pretty regularly and while I was getting started I made a conscious effort to reply to every thread, so I'm not too guilty. I might make a well thread or post some inspirational anti-tilt quote or something.

Edit: Mike Haven is a moderator on these forums now. When and why did they change that? Not that I think it makes a huge difference or anything.

daveT 11-01-2007 07:49 PM

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Poker is rigged: I won every game today.

Today's theme: weak-tight min-donk-betters. LOL.

ChicagoRy 11-01-2007 07:50 PM

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If you've won every game you haven't played enough games.

MasterLJ 11-01-2007 07:53 PM

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Game selection FTW!!!

Good way to start off the month.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...terLJ/Nov1.jpg

MasterLJ 11-01-2007 07:55 PM

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Last 4 days!

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Last4days.jpg

daveT 11-01-2007 07:59 PM

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Dang posted 3 minutes ago and I'm already knocked off my pedestal. 7 in a row so far.

xSCWx 11-01-2007 08:07 PM

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Last 4 days!

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Last4days.jpg

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HH for hands ~3600ish?

Nice graph man.

daveT 11-01-2007 08:21 PM

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Okay, I just hit 8 in a row and lost the 9th. Gotta go eat now, but here is a hand to rile up the masses:

Full Tilt Poker, $5 + $0.25 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: 1,600
Hero (SB): 1,400

Pre-Flop: (30) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to 60</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to 100</font>, Hero calls 40

Flop: (200) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 200</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 800</font>, BB calls 600

Turn: (1,800) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 700 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls 500 and is All-In

River: (2,800) 8http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 2,800 Pot
BB showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-1,400 NET)
Hero showed 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Fives and Twos) and WON 2,800 (+1,400 NET)

MasterLJ 11-01-2007 08:58 PM

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Last 4 days!

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Last4days.jpg

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HH for hands ~3600ish?

Nice graph man.

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This was probably one of the more gross mistakes I've made in the past few days, and it's sort of marginal. I think villain calls with worse hands a lot here.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $526.25
Hero (SB): $387.75

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($44) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $18</font>, Hero calls $18

River: ($80) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $70</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $347.75 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $277.75

Results: $775.50 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
BB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON $775 (+$387.25 NET)
Hero showed T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, Queen high) and LOST (-$387.75 NET)

xSCWx 11-01-2007 09:02 PM

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Last 4 days!

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Last4days.jpg

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HH for hands ~3600ish?

Nice graph man.

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This was probably one of the more gross mistakes I've made in the past few days, and it's sort of marginal. I think villain calls with worse hands a lot here.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $526.25
Hero (SB): $387.75

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($44) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $18</font>, Hero calls $18

River: ($80) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $70</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $347.75 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $277.75

Results: $775.50 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
BB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON $775 (+$387.25 NET)
Hero showed T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, Queen high) and LOST (-$387.75 NET)

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Haha I was thinking the hands immediately after that one. The upswing!

MasterLJ 11-01-2007 09:03 PM

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I think it was the QQ vs JJ that I posted previously. Not 100% though but it certainly makes sense.

Btw, today's total is at $1950 and I think I'm done.

xSCWx 11-01-2007 09:08 PM

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I think it was the QQ vs JJ that I posted previously. Not 100% though but it certainly makes sense.

Btw, today's total is at $1950 and I think I'm done.

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Dude just a few more hands, gotta break $2000!

PS: Don't do it, monetary goals are the recipe for disaster.

MasterLJ 11-01-2007 09:10 PM

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I think it was the QQ vs JJ that I posted previously. Not 100% though but it certainly makes sense.

Btw, today's total is at $1950 and I think I'm done.

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Dude just a few more hands, gotta break $2000!

PS: Don't do it, monetary goals are the recipe for disaster.

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LOL, that was near perfect timing.

Friend's retort to my agreeing with you xSCWx:
"monetary goals make me sleep better when i hit them"

I can't argue with him there.

ChicagoRy 11-01-2007 09:11 PM

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But it hurts so much more when you miss them.

iSTRONG 11-01-2007 09:18 PM

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Why do they always play perfect vs my specific hand and terrible vs. my range...?

Second hand of the match &amp; he hits and runs me to add insult to injury. Jborg89 FU. £$QUPUY££U$HG(£U$WH"(HU"($U

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $266.95
BB: $200

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $90</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $194 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $104

Turn: ($400) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($400) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $400 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
Hero showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (Ace Ten high) and LOST (-$200 NET)
BB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON $399.50 (+$199.50 NET)

ChicagoRy 11-01-2007 09:19 PM

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Anybody know of a HH editor or something similar that can cut down on the space hands take up?

Basically I want to start printing up HHs and going over them at night. I prefer to read on paper than online, especially when focusing. I use up a lot of my thinking/focus playing husngs and I think reviewing a lot of HHs would cut down on my playing time (which is already too low). So something that summarizes hands that did not see flop "hero raise, bb fold" to one line and cuts back on unnecessary lines during hands would be good for me.

TNixon 11-01-2007 09:24 PM

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Tnixon , what happened to your 10 buy-in rule ?

It's not working anymore , huh .

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You really are a completely ignorant jackass, aren't you.

I've already said that I backed it off a little for $50s, and quite a bit for $100s.

In fact, I resurrected that last buyin thread solely to admit to a little bit of chickening out on 10 buyins when I got close to playing $100s.

And I happen to know you read it, because you responded to it.

Which means the only purpose if this post is to give further examples of how absolutely ignorant you really are, and to see if you can tilt me more than you already have by being a complete goddamned idiot.

Grats, it's working. Jackass.

TNixon 11-01-2007 09:25 PM

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Keep your wars out of the LC thread, dammit!

I request an official JayShark and TNixon bickering thread.

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Sorry dave.

I realize "he started it" is absolutely childish and wholly insufficient.

but...

well...

he started it.

[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

soop 11-01-2007 11:00 PM

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I beg to differ - there's a little known game called amplitude that blows all other follow the bouncing ball games out of the water.

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haha yes. amplitude was such a great game.

Landonfan 11-01-2007 11:10 PM

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500th post yo.

HokieGreg 11-01-2007 11:37 PM

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500th post yo.

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Please post a TR on your adventure.

Landonfan 11-02-2007 12:07 AM

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500th post yo.

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Please post a TR on your adventure.

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I registered back in March, but didn't post much. I just lurked around the STT forum. There really wasn't much to post on anyway; if it was a push/fold situation, someone would post some complex math and that would be the end of it. Or if it was something about how to play in the early stages of a STT, people would all have different opinions and everyone would eventually come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter if you limp PPs or SCs, as long as you don't do anything exceedingly stupid and play proper push/fold poker late you'll be a winning player. Anyway, I had played ~1500 $12 STTs with an 8% ROI. Nothing special, but I was working hard to get better and was generally very optimistic. Then I went on a 50 buyin downswing over 200 games. It wasn't bad beats or tilt or anything; I was making correct pushes and my opponents just had a hand in their calling range way more than they should have. Being on the wrong end of countless 60/40s is way worse than beats imo.

Anyway, I decided I never wanted to see another SNG again. So a couple months ago I went back to my first love, limit hold 'em. I started posting a lot in the Micro Limit forum. Nice guys, for a bunch of crotchety old men (j/k, I &lt;3 the micro forum). Anyway, I played 10k hands of 1/2 FR. Things went well, but it was boring and the games were nitty as hell. So I jumped into fishy-ass 6max, and dropped 500bbs in 20k hands. Again, most of it was running bad, but looking over my HHs and reading the posts of better players made me realize that I would probably never be better than a marginal LHE player. I just didn't get it for some reason. So I gave up like a little bitch.

And that gets us to here. I read one of Cwar's old posts (I think it was the one about why one should play husngs), and the thing that really caught my eye was the low bankroll requirements, seeing as how I was now a bit low on poker funds. So anyway, I've played ~200 11s and am down 14 buyins.

There ya go, Hokie. And I'm sorry if you were being sarcastic [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

shipurstack 11-02-2007 12:07 AM

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nice graph lj

ChicagoRy 11-02-2007 12:45 AM

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So I'm trying to get into my opponent's head.

These are two separate villains. Hands are from their perspective. Help me figure out what they are thinking.

Eff. stacks 1300

15-30 blinds

Hero calls bb of 30 with Ks8c. Villain checks.

Flop 7c8dJh (60)

Villain leads for 45. Hero Calls.

Turn 7c8dJh Qh (150)

Villain leads for 90. Hero raises to 180. Villain calls.

River 7c8dJhQh Kc (510)

Villain checks. Hero bets 150. Villain calls.


Hand 2

Effective stacks 1100

Blinds 20-40

Hero raises 5h6h OTB to 80. Villain raises to 240. Hero calls.

Flop 4s3c2s (480)

Villain bets 350. Hero shoves. Villain calls.



Thanks.

chrismystero 11-02-2007 01:14 AM

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Game selection FTW!!!

Good way to start off the month.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...terLJ/Nov1.jpg

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Looks like a nice Hand #1, what happened?

pokercurious 11-02-2007 01:19 AM

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Anybody know of a HH editor or something similar that can cut down on the space hands take up?

Basically I want to start printing up HHs and going over them at night. I prefer to read on paper than online, especially when focusing. I use up a lot of my thinking/focus playing husngs and I think reviewing a lot of HHs would cut down on my playing time (which is already too low). So something that summarizes hands that did not see flop "hero raise, bb fold" to one line and cuts back on unnecessary lines during hands would be good for me.

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This might be a good impetus for me to revisit a project that I never quite finished.

I had hijacked a thread a while ago where everybody (rightly) ignored this, but hey, it's LC, and there's a relevant question as well.

Anybody interested in something like this being developed further? And by further, I mean at all. Currently, it's hacked together by stripping the XML HH from HM, which doesn't work anymore - I'd have to write or hijack a converter. In any case, the main idea was that it shouldn't be too difficult to represent HUSNG HH's using one line per hand. This is what it looks like:

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...screenshot.jpg

Anyway, if there's any interest/comments/suggestions/etc., let me know.

Also, I haven't tried it, but I've seen something called a tournament trimmer on flopturnriver.com. Don't know how well it works.

ChicagoRy 11-02-2007 01:26 AM

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This could work.

Converting those cards from colored visuals to 5hTd text would be ideal because I'd rather print in black and white.

But this could work well, I can see like 15-25 hands per page, depending on paper I use.

How much more work would you have to put in for this?

And I'll check that flopturnriver trimmer out, thanks.

pokercurious 11-02-2007 01:44 AM

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PM sent

Wu36 11-02-2007 01:48 AM

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So I'm trying to get into my opponent's head.

These are two separate villains. Hands are from their perspective. Help me figure out what they are thinking.

Eff. stacks 1300

15-30 blinds

Hero calls bb of 30 with Ks8c. Villain checks.
***Ooh, a king. Call.***
Flop 7c8dJh (60)

Villain leads for 45. Hero Calls.

**aggro dude donks into me, i have mid pair call.**

Turn 7c8dJh Qh (150)

Villain leads for 90. Hero raises to 180. Villain calls.

***scary turn, minraise for free showdown (i dont really get this one but i swear they do it all the time)***
River 7c8dJhQh Kc (510)

Villain checks. Hero bets 150. Villain calls.

**2pair, shiny!! guess I have to value bet now, the board is real scary so I'll make it unnessecarily small lest you be scared away**
Hand 2

Effective stacks 1100

Blinds 20-40

Hero raises 5h6h OTB to 80. Villain raises to 240. Hero calls.
** std open otb, hey reraise lets call off &gt;20% of our stack**
Flop 4s3c2s (480)
**ALLIN?**
**FLUSH DRAWS BRO, FLUSH DRAWS**

Villain bets 350. Hero shoves. Villain calls.

** GO WAKE UP EMIL!!**

Thanks.

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xSCWx 11-02-2007 02:06 AM

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I'm not prepared to write a pooh-bah post, but I want to do something and I can't post until I do, so I live you with this inspirational text:

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This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time. You can't do anything to change the past and the way to changing the future will occur in the present.

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I think at least part of it might be from Fight Club.

Read it when you are running bad.

brandysbich 11-02-2007 03:08 AM

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I've never heard of someone not prepared to write a pooh bah post, especially for the reasons you gave earlier.

Indiana 11-02-2007 05:55 AM

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thinking 6 months ahead, im tired of driving my nissan pathfinder to work every day. How's this for a new ride?

http://www.bayareabmw.com/?CMP=KNC-BAGS


any other better cars out there to consider buying?


Indy

hra146 11-02-2007 08:38 AM

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thinking 6 months ahead, im tired of driving my nissan pathfinder to work every day. How's this for a new ride?

http://www.bayareabmw.com/?CMP=KNC-BAGS


any other better cars out there to consider buying?


Indy

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that link takes me to a BMW dealer site but not exactly to a specific car.

Indiana 11-02-2007 12:29 PM

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thinking 6 months ahead, im tired of driving my nissan pathfinder to work every day. How's this for a new ride?

http://www.bayareabmw.com/?CMP=KNC-BAGS


any other better cars out there to consider buying?


Indy

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that link takes me to a BMW dealer site but not exactly to a specific car.

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oh sorry...i am looking to get the 7 series BMW but wondered if there was anything better out there. Here in the bay area a turbo porsche costs like 100K and that's just too much for me. But is there anything else better than bmw and not so expensive?


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