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oracle3001 06-26-2007 03:35 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
I definitely agree that less is more in these situations. Key stats are what is important. For me the fold to 3-bet is one of them.

Maybe you are right about the 4-bet stuff, especially at lower levels where people don't often re-repop with air. This is more a meta-game play used at 5/10NL and above.

Regards the float stat, that is not technically a float then, as if somebody has hit a set on a dry board a similar action will most likely be played out. Also this stat could well be seriously skewed by passive players, who just call with their top pair, strongish kicker, or better players who will call with 2nd pair if they know their opponent to c-bet all the time.

Not sure if it would be possible to factor in those kind of things, but without the float factor could be really misleading. If I see the float factor being high I want to be making some moves and putting the pressue on, given that they are supposed to be "floating" and have air a lot of the time. I don't want to find they actually have top pair, 2nd/3rd kicker fairly often, are passive and are still going to call me.

oracle3001 06-26-2007 04:03 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
I have just noticed that it looks like the guy has finally come good on wanting to produce a PT rival in Holdem Manager. As part of that he is going to have a HUD as well.

As a serious player (that makes the vast majority of his income from poker) I think you are really along the right lines with the way your calculate your stats and display them in your HUD. I have no idea what his HUD is going to be like and what he is going to do, maybe there is an opportunity to interact with the creator of Hold'em Manager and get your work incorporated into his (for some monetary return of course).

As the way I see it, PT and PA HUD have been slow to really take seriously the ideas you have got working in your HUD. A bit of serious competition does nothing but good for us end users, and any rival (as Hold'Em Manager is trying to be) needs to be the best it possibly can to really take on the monopoly of PT/PA HUD.

I would hate to see what you have already done go by the way side as I previously stated I think the way you have done things so far is absolutely spot on what serious players require (and isn't available in PT / PAHUD).

mikechops 06-27-2007 09:45 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
I'm going on vacation and won't be back till next week. I was thinking about posting a new version, but I've been working on Stars support. Hopefully it's only a couple of days or so when I get back on the 6th of July.

I'd rather a new version till then. That way I can test the version fairly thoroughly.


I guess there's a few of niggly things I need to do.

1. Fix the exception on closing Realtime when tables are open.

2. If I can find a way to compile with the MFC .dll file included. MHope I don't need to buy a new compiler though..

3. I noticed that I am loading the card0.png for the mucked cards images file from c:\program files\full tilt poker\graphics\table\elements. If you have full tilt installed in a different directory, Realtime won't be able to load it. You can just make that same folder for now and copy the cards0.png file to it. Kind of messy and I'll look at fixing it in the next version.

4. Look at changing the call 3-bet stats to fold to 3-bet.


If anybody has anything else, please either post here or PM me.

deflY 06-29-2007 06:08 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
Thanks for the software! It's working great for me.

But am I the only one who misses the WTS value? An option to change the font/font size would also be nice imo.

edit: it would also be nice if you could minimize the window to the tray

bozzer 07-03-2007 02:10 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
just installed the software. thanks a lot for sharing it. Can I request font size changing too please?

Voy Por Ustedes 07-05-2007 07:56 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
Really nice software, thanks. Changing font and font size and getting some showdown stats would be fantastic.

74o_Clownsuit 07-06-2007 06:43 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
Mikechops so far I enjoy this software. Thanks for doing this! <3 It's finally a relief to have a hud on the new ftp that DOESN'T LAG HARDCORE (cough cough).

In any case I'm having a few problems with the software. I suck at computers though. I appreciate any help you have:

1) Everytime I save preferences for things like color, HH location etc etc and then close the program, everything will be gone the next time I start it up. I will get an error message and then I have to reset all the preferences.

2) One problem I had with moving the stats around (but belive me, I LOVE this idea) was that everytime I adjusted the stats for me, it would alter the position of my stats on other tables. Thus it turned into a bunch of overlay and general mess. I semi-solved the problem by clicking "auto-center" in Full Tilt's options but was wondering if there is a less "ghetto" way of handling it.

Thanks man!

dtan05 07-06-2007 12:24 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
Am i the only one this doesn't work for? It seems that the people's stats are in the wrong position (which i dragged over), and that some people who left the table's stats are showing. also, is there any way to use my old database? I have to start with 0 hands every time.

mikechops 07-09-2007 10:33 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
V1.02
Added Poker Stars support.
Moved filters to their own dialog since it is a general setting and didnt belong with either FTP or Stars settings.
Fixed shutdown with tables open bug.
Added choose font button to display prefs dialog.
Looked at player stats not appearing. Thought I fixed it, though it happened again on a Stars table - ##@! - Added click on table in the list to activate all player stas for a table. It only happened once in opening maybe 50 tables over 2 hours and clicking on the table list doesnt seem too hard until I can track it down?
Added support for HU tables (Only tested on Full Tilt as I couln't see any on Stars). I'll be doing more with HU after I get Party Poker supported.
Changed Call 3-bet stat to Fold to 3-bet.

TODO
Party. I have a bunch of HH's from pre-Oct. I guess I can use FPHG for some more. And of course there's always play $ tables..Shouldn't be too long since most of the Stars work was actually extending the classes to handle different sites. Could be a bugger to test though.

Look to see what I can do with players who sit and dont play. FTP lists them in the chip count at the start of the HH. This is convenient since I get their stats up before they play a hand. Stars has message thatr says "donkey123 sits in seat 5". It could appear anywhere in the HH so it's going to be a bit of a pain to read. Also need to make sure the seat isn't marked as empty when the next HH has no mention of them because they sat out. Also check for when players stand up - not so improtant but would look tidier.

Add last pot $ to mucked cards overlay

Speed up import. Pretty fast for files that are created in order of hand #, but bogs down a bit for PT exported files - still faster than >>> PT, but can do something about this.

http://www.mediafire.com/?d4dyjntgx0x

Gonna be away for a couple of days, but Party shouldn't take too long when I get back. 2-3 days.

dtan05 07-10-2007 12:54 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
mike, could you help me out ? I sent an email and got no response [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

oracle3001 07-10-2007 07:11 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
Your a star, will have a play with this in the next few days. Can't wait for the Party one, as that is the main site I play.

Just a quick point, why does it go mental in terms of CPU usage every time I start the app up. Surely after the first time it has looked in the hh directories, built the db, and so only be a matter of adding any new hands the next time?

It seems to take several minutes before it unfreezes itself and is ready for use.

Edit:- Have found the problem, if you have lots of .tmp file in your hand history directory, its causes this problem

Found another problem, if you rebuild the database from observed hands, and while that is running you click away from the window (i.e. I went to surf the net) it causes the import to freeze.

oracle3001 07-10-2007 07:59 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
I think a useful addition would be for time consuming actions like importing the hand histories to have a progress bar that works on a separate thread and so doesn't become frozen. The user would then know the program hasn't crashed, and maybe with some idea of how long to go.

Another issue, is if you have multiple tables open and you move around the stat box in one, it never updates the position in the others. Then the last table to close is the remembered stat positions.

Jzo19 07-10-2007 08:42 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
does it lag on FT like PAHUD ?

moldman 07-10-2007 08:58 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
Love the software from what I can see so far. The one stat I'm missing that I'd really still like to see is "fold to steal". You have steal % on there, and having the compliment like you do with c-bet and 3-bet would be great. Thanks again.

mikechops 07-11-2007 06:24 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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mike, could you help me out ? I sent an email and got no response [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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PM sent.

mikechops 07-11-2007 06:25 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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Love the software from what I can see so far. The one stat I'm missing that I'd really still like to see is "fold to steal". You have steal % on there, and having the compliment like you do with c-bet and 3-bet would be great. Thanks again.

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Good idea.

Jzo19 07-11-2007 08:09 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
can u add "raise cbet %"...thx

bozzer 07-11-2007 09:11 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
mike, thanks a lot for adding the font and stars support. currently giving this a whirl as my main HUD.

if you're interested, suggestions for other improvements:
adding s/d stats: wtsd and w$sd. I assume these would be pretty easy to implement.
adding 'calls PFR': i find it very helpful
adding table averages on the overlay
more colour choices

also, maybe consider making the pop-up stats available on a right click, with the left click for moving the box. I keep misclicking them, but that might just be me.

thanks again for this really nifty free software. If I continue to use it I'll be shipping you a few $.

YoureToast 07-12-2007 12:10 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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does it lag on FT like PAHUD ?

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fozzy71 07-12-2007 12:19 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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I keep misclicking them, but that might just be me.

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Not just you. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I agree with your other suggestions as well. I would also like to see some more info in the Realtime window - my $won/lost per table for example.

And is it just me....why wont it show me my session stats like GT+ did. So I could get a better feel for my table image at each different table. I have tried the option in display preferences, but it still shows my total DB avg stats.

I have only played a couple hundred hands with it so far, so bear with me for being a noob. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

mikechops 07-12-2007 01:20 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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I keep misclicking them, but that might just be me.

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Not just you. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I agree with your other suggestions as well. I would also like to see some more info in the Realtime window - my $won/lost per table for example.

And is it just me....why wont it show me my session stats like GT+ did. So I could get a better feel for my table image at each different table. I have tried the option in display preferences, but it still shows my total DB avg stats.

I have only played a couple hundred hands with it so far, so bear with me for being a noob. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I figured the more common action was clicking to see the stats rather than dragging the panels around. As such, it gets the left button?

It should show you the session data. A possible reason it doesn't is that the screen name isn't set up correctly. Realtime looks in the HH folder for a subfolder. It assumes the player's name is exactly what the folder name is - I wanted to make it easy to set up.

This worked fine for my FTP name, but when I tried it on Stars my name had been altered - they lost a period from my screenname in the folder name. (Possibly FTP does something similar, but my screen name there is strictly a-z chars) I didn't notice the problem until saw my career stats instead of session stats.

Win/loss on a per table basis is easy enough and I liked that column in GT+.

fozzy71 07-12-2007 02:18 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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It should show you the session data.

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It prolly would if it were actually reading the hands from my current session in real time. I fired up GT+ and RT at the same time - GT+ had 330 hands on 1 player, while RT had only 226. Obviously the 226 were from when i Exported HH's from PT and loaded them into RT. I will look into it more closely tomorrow.

I would like to get your HUD to work properly, I like it A LOT. I will take some screen grabs if need be so you can show me what I am doing wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

bozzer 07-12-2007 06:32 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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does it lag on FT like PAHUD ?

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not IME

YoureToast 07-12-2007 08:49 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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does it lag on FT like PAHUD ?

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not IME

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IME?

bozzer 07-12-2007 10:22 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
in my experience

YoureToast 07-12-2007 11:44 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
so you have lag with PAHud but not with this?

As you can tell, I'm looking for an excuse to start playing at FT again.

bozzer 07-13-2007 08:08 AM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
i have some problems with PAHUD (but not enough to not use it). I have no problems with Realtime.

moldman 07-13-2007 02:03 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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It should show you the session data.

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It prolly would if it were actually reading the hands from my current session in real time. I fired up GT+ and RT at the same time - GT+ had 330 hands on 1 player, while RT had only 226. Obviously the 226 were from when i Exported HH's from PT and loaded them into RT. I will look into it more closely tomorrow.

I would like to get your HUD to work properly, I like it A LOT. I will take some screen grabs if need be so you can show me what I am doing wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Not that I'm complaining, but for me, it also shows my overall data, not the session data. The session data would definitely be preferred, or even the option just to turn off my stats. But yeah, I don't really need to see my stats over 60k hands and have them updated every hand. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

fozzy71 07-13-2007 02:38 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
I think I found out what I had set-up wrong. It was all user error. I now got it to show my individ stats by session. Sweet. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Hand History Folder
C:\Program Files\Full Tilt Poker\HandHistory\Username
- It was using a different screen name that I have played.


Your history folder
C:\Program Files\Full Tilt Poker\HandHistory\Username
- It was using a different screen name that I have played.

- And make sure your username is in the Your Screen Name box - and that it is typed exactly like your username in the path file boxes. Basically your username needs to be in all 3 boxes where the arrows are pointing.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...y71/RThud2.jpg

halsted 07-13-2007 05:59 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
mike,

Im having problems using it.

I load it and it says "could not overlay6" and then "could not generate mucked hands"

I downloaded the mfc71.dll and that did nothing.

I use vista. Any ideas?

jdubs015 07-13-2007 08:19 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
stats dont show up over the right seats. i play 6max and i have the auto-center feature checked.

fozzy71 07-13-2007 10:33 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
I am now having similar problems.

I never used "Auto Center" in the FFT client cuz it would mess up my GT+ stats. I didn't have Autocenter checked in RT either. It would place everyones stats right, except mine. I am confused to the best way to set it up. I dont care if it autocenters or not - so long as all the stats line up every time.

moldman 07-14-2007 02:27 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
I haven't had the problem with stats in the wrong place. I do use the auto-center function in both FT and RT. Could you just open one table, drag the stats to where you want them to be, then close it so it saves, then have it be set? Just an idea. I do know I did a lot of messing around with font sizes and moving around stats so it wasn't covering up people's cards, etc..

Oh, and thanks Fozzy for that tip about the session stats. I made the changes, but haven't played yet - but I'm guessing that should fix it.

I should also add that I play Full Ring, so that could be a difference.

fozzy71 07-14-2007 03:02 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
TY for the suggestions.

I will try again later today - using the auto-center in both, with just one table, one session, til I get the stats set up and am sure they are working properly. Then I will try and close everything out - and start a new 6 table session like normal.

halsted 07-14-2007 05:05 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
Anyone else get the "cannot overlay6" error? It can "See" your table but cant overlay stats?

fozzy71 07-14-2007 05:07 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
Wahoo - I think I got it all sorted out.

I can now use auto-center, and all the stats seem to be lining up, and staying current. Can't wait to finally use this HUD for a full session of multi-tabling.

Reup Gang 07-14-2007 09:48 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
can you make it so we don't HAVE to choose to see our own stats if we don't want to? im trying to devise a hud layout so it's not totally cluttered and am having trouble. anyone succeed? how are ppl color coordinating their stuff? i am really poor at organization obv

jonyy6788 07-14-2007 09:49 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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Vista works.

Can you add support for the deep stack tables? It wont recognize that it is a 6max table. Thanks for you hard work.

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details on how to get the mfc71.dll installed???????????

fozzy71 07-14-2007 11:14 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
Minimize to system tray would be nice feature

jonyy6788 07-15-2007 12:36 PM

Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!
 
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Vista works.

Can you add support for the deep stack tables? It wont recognize that it is a 6max table. Thanks for you hard work.

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details on how to get the mfc71.dll installed???????????

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$10 on FT to whoever gets this working for me

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