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jimm - do the lawyers socialize much with the secretaries? Do you feel they look down on them much? [/ QUOTE ] No - never, ever. Yes, a lot. I spent six months there as a temp secretary, then came back two months later to work in the word processing department. I am a complete anomaly, having pretty much the education of the lawyers (though I'm from a more middle-class background) but, seemingly, so little ambition I'm happy to do a school leaver's job. So they don't know what to make of me. The other day in the street outside, I walked past one of the guys I used to work for. Out of politeness I nodded hello, and while doing so, as you do, looked him in the eye. He didn't nod back, didn't smile, didn't alter his expression a fraction. He just carried on walking like I wasn't there. He was one of four lawyers I worked for and he never gave me any work to do, he was self-sufficient - for which I was grateful - but WOW at being cut dead like that. While I worked for him we were both smokers, and we'd see each other several times a day in the courtyard where the smokers were, but when he saw me there he'd always walk ten metres further down. Sometimes we found ourselves walking back at the same time and went up together in the lift in silence! Since I work an afternoon/evening shift there now, I eat my evening meal there. A lot of the lawyers will be in the canteen when I go in around 7.30pm, guys I used to work for. But I'd never dream of sitting with them - I'm just not interested in them. I'd rather wolf down my food and read the paper, than try hard to find some common ground with this alien species. I also don't feel comfortable taking orders from young guys, guys younger than me. It makes me aware of my complete lack of status. Ah, [censored] it - it's about personalities. I worked for the head of department, an equity partner who gets paid £1 million+ a year. When I left, she took me for lunch to a little Italian place I'd told her was good, and she said to me "So what happened?" - as in, what was a guy like me - she was very astute at judging people by appearances - doing in a job like that? She told me I was too good to be a secretary at that firm, and implored me to get a proper career path. Even though she is super-busy, she is very sharp, shrewd, and observant. I felt very flattered, even if I wasn't able to take her advice. Some of the other lawyers were also very friendly, once I got them talking. I sat amongst them at a couple of firm social lunches and we talked the whole way through. But I think they are people who have spent their whole lives in institutions with rigid hierarchies - a lot of them are ex-army, too - and they like using their perceived status to snub those "beneath" them. There's an inverse snobbery, too, of course. You can be sure the mailroom guys look down on the lawyers. And the secretaries look down on the junior lawyers, who for just twice their salary work three times the hours. |
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rofl if you think class snobbery is exclusively confined to England. You are very short-sighted if you don't see these things going on in America (though admittedly probably not as bad as in England). One similar area where Americans are much, much worse imo is when it comes to people of different financial situations than them. [/ QUOTE ] Class snobbery is hilarious whereever it's found, imo. But I changed my mind, the best part of the whole thread is jimm's "I have a gambling problem" 62 GBP deposit. |
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[ QUOTE ] rofl if you think class snobbery is exclusively confined to England. You are very short-sighted if you don't see these things going on in America (though admittedly probably not as bad as in England). One similar area where Americans are much, much worse imo is when it comes to people of different financial situations than them. [/ QUOTE ] Class snobbery is hilarious whereever it's found, imo. But I changed my mind, the best part of the whole thread is jimm's "I have a gambling problem" 62 GBP deposit. [/ QUOTE ] Oh really, why? I worked out how much cash I needed until a £520 withdrawal comes through tomorrow (and I get paid the day after), got out slightly more, then deposited the rest. |
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No need to get defensive, 2p2 celebrates degeneracy in all it's forms.
But 62 exactly. 100% of your disposable income? Not healthy. |
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Nice TR. It would be better if you somehow included British accents or at least a British saying or two. I look forward to the audio version of this.
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most people stereotype and judge based on race and class, they just aren't open about it like the English.
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I had a perfect session last night playing from 10.30pm to 3.30am at the 24 hour Internet cafe. I deposited £62 and withdrew £392 for a win of £330. I didn't play higher than $0.50/$1, either. When I walked in, the poker player I'd talked to the previous night was asleep in the corner. When I spoke to him later, he told me he'd been there two days. He was waiting, he said, for a tournament. And for Godot, I suppose. I sat at the back, and noticed the man sitting in the corner next to me was watching porn films. Another man was looking at escort websites; someone else was on Gaydar. Around 2am a stout, cheaply dressed, gel-haired young Englishman with a cheap sports bag started shouting at the middle-aged lank-haired semi-destitute Pole sitting next to him, telling him not to look at his screen. He was pushing, shoving, and yelling in a high-pitched, chippy, common voice. He asked the Pole to come outside to fight, then pushed his chair so he fell over hard onto his back. The young Turkish man from the front desk came over and stood between them, and tried to escort the English thug out of the door but he refused to leave, demanding a refund. He said "Go on, call Old Bill if you want", and I guessed he was and would continue to be no stranger to the inside of a police cell. I walked over to watch and so did all the other guys, forming a scrum at the front of the store. The Polish man was hiding behind the counter, protected by the store owners from the English thug. I missed what happened for a fraction of a second. Suddenly the English man was curled up on the floor and the Turkish man, no doubt being from the fighting class himself, had lifted a large metal stool above his head and was about to bring it down onto the thug's thick head. I felt my heart race and desperately wanted him to do it, but his colleague held him back. The English thug got up, and I saw the bridge of his nose was bleeding. He said he was going to call the police. The Turkish man had by now reached behind the counter for a three-foot long steel pole, and was wielding it as if he meant business. He called the Englishman a "little dick" and invited him to come and have a fight. Golly, what fun! The English thug finally was convinced to go outside, and he paced outside shouting, telling us "You've got weapons? I've got weapons too" - though I guessed his cheap sports bag contained nothing more than packed lunch and P.E. kit - and said he would be waiting for the Turk when his shift finished. I found myself telling the thug to get lost, and that he started it. Someone else observed there were thirty witnesses who'd speak against him. Finally we saw him get on a bus. Fifteen minutes later two policewomen arrived, called by the thug or the store-owner I'm not sure. As the ladies walked to the back of the store, the man in the corner unplugged his headphones and we heard a loud UH - UH - OH - YES - YES from the porn film he was watching; the place erupted in laughter. The policewomen interviewed the Pole, but since the thug had gone there wasn't much they could do. An amusing night! [/ QUOTE ] Was this internet cafe in the United Nations or something? Poles, Turks, Englishmen, my word. |
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Was this internet cafe in the United Nations or something? Poles, Turks, Englishmen, my word. [/ QUOTE ] And a Chinaman, too! |
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I sometimes find it strange reading an American book or article. The writer, who is almost certainly white, describes a character in minute detail, letting you know his height, weight, and everything but his shoe size, but never mentions the colour of his skin. I'm sure good writers occasionally include these details. So are there thousands of editors carefully cropping every reference to race from every piece of American published prose?
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The lawyers all went to public school (i.e. top private school, different meaning here) then Oxford/Cambridge, and have ridic super-posh voices, like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=u3G618-hxgA [/ QUOTE ] ROFL this guy is hilarious. I found http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bauz34toJ1g which is even better after watching your clip. |
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[ QUOTE ] The lawyers all went to public school (i.e. top private school, different meaning here) then Oxford/Cambridge, and have ridic super-posh voices, like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=u3G618-hxgA [/ QUOTE ] ROFL this guy is hilarious. I found http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bauz34toJ1g which is even better after watching your clip. [/ QUOTE ] Mildly amusing. You do realise that's an impressionist? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The lawyers all went to public school (i.e. top private school, different meaning here) then Oxford/Cambridge, and have ridic super-posh voices, like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=u3G618-hxgA [/ QUOTE ] ROFL this guy is hilarious. I found http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bauz34toJ1g which is even better after watching your clip. [/ QUOTE ] Mildly amusing. You do realise that's an impressionist? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. |
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I spent six months there as a temp secretary, then came back two months later to work in the word processing department. I am a complete anomaly, having pretty much the education of the lawyers (though I'm from a more middle-class background) but, seemingly, so little ambition I'm happy to do a school leaver's job. So they don't know what to make of me. [/ QUOTE ] You've made statements like this before(overeducated/underachieving), and i'm not trying to be harsh when I say this, but do you ever stop to think that you might not be as smart/educated as you think you are. Blaming a lack of ambition seems like a very easy out for somebody who has not achieved very much. |
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I just spoke to a friend who also goes to this Internet cafe.
She told me the guy who works there is called Mohammed. I did see one of the other guys there taking prayers, when I was trying to buy a ticket. So maybe they are not Turkish after all, but Middle Eastern? Or Turkish Muslim? |
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I just spoke to a friend who also goes to this Internet cafe. She told me the guy who works there is called Mohammed. I did see one of the other guys there taking prayers, when I was trying to buy a ticket. So maybe they are not Turkish after all, but Middle Eastern? Or Turkish Muslim? [/ QUOTE ] What? You do know that Turks are Muslim, no? |
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You seem confused luckyjimm. 99% of Turkey is muslim. Why does him being muslim suddenly not make him Turkish?
Edit: In fact, it is very common for some countries to lump all muslims as Turkish. Denmark/Sweden and Argentina for example (I'm sure there are more, I just know these ones from experience living there). |
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[ QUOTE ] I just spoke to a friend who also goes to this Internet cafe. She told me the guy who works there is called Mohammed. I did see one of the other guys there taking prayers, when I was trying to buy a ticket. So maybe they are not Turkish after all, but Middle Eastern? Or Turkish Muslim? [/ QUOTE ] What? You do know that Turks are Muslim, no? [/ QUOTE ] ZOMG!!! |
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FlyWF brings his self-righteous douchebaggery from the prison thread to this thread. Love it.
Luckyjimm, it sounds like you're doing better than some of your previous threads indicated. Keep it up and I hope things continue to improve. |
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[ QUOTE ] I spent six months there as a temp secretary, then came back two months later to work in the word processing department. I am a complete anomaly, having pretty much the education of the lawyers (though I'm from a more middle-class background) but, seemingly, so little ambition I'm happy to do a school leaver's job. So they don't know what to make of me. [/ QUOTE ] You've made statements like this before(overeducated/underachieving), and i'm not trying to be harsh when I say this, but do you ever stop to think that you might not be as smart/educated as you think you are. Blaming a lack of ambition seems like a very easy out for somebody who has not achieved very much. [/ QUOTE ] Oh yes, of course, absolutely. I did get a BA, MA and completed two years of a PhD at one of the best English departments in the country, but I've failed to do anything with it, and I'm not much of an original thinker. Perhaps a link to Anacord's classic OOT thread would be in order? |
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luckyjimm ... your trip reports make my day! I seriously want to take this opportunity to thank you for them. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I really enjoy the way that English people don't even realize how ridiculous they seem when they casually use caste-based insults. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you think it is ridiculous out of interest? [/ QUOTE ] Because it betrays a significant and deep personality flaw that you guys don't even have the good sense to be ashamed of your out-dated prejudices. [/ QUOTE ] i must of missed the part where jimm showed out-dated prejudices... your assuming he's prejudiced when he's merely describing what happened is more offensive. |
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Please never stop updating your blog.
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FlyWF brings his self-righteous douchebaggery from the prison thread to this thread. Love it. Luckyjimm, it sounds like you're doing better than some of your previous threads indicated. Keep it up and I hope things continue to improve. [/ QUOTE ] As you well know, I bring my self-righteous douchebaggery to every thread. Love, Assani |
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whats wrong with having gone to public school?
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All,
Just to clarify. "public school" in UK = "private school" in America. |
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FFK,
"Luckyjimm, it sounds like you're doing better than some of your previous threads indicated. Keep it up and I hope things continue to improve." Keep up! |
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All, Just to clarify. "public school" in UK = "private school" in America. [/ QUOTE ] Well thats just retarded. |
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DLizzle- People don't have classes, this isn't Dungeons and Dragons. The hilarious part was: "high-pitched, chippy, common voice" not any of the descriptions. [/ QUOTE ] Classes do exist whether you like it or not and it is dumb to believe they don't. I personally like the class system since it keeps the jumped up pantry boys from the working classes in their place! Btw, saying someone has a 'common voice' is not particularly offensive. Tbh, in England these days it much more socially acceptable to be working-class scum than an upper-class twit. |
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the jumped up pantry boys from the working classes in their place! [/ QUOTE ] Nice to fit in a Morrissey reference! |
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luckyjimm ... your trip reports make my day! I seriously want to take this opportunity to thank you for them. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Also, Jimm have you read any Bukowski? |
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Fifteen minutes later two policewomen arrived, [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps they assign the attractive ones to the rich neighborhood where my friend lives... but man i have seen so many super hot London Policewomen on my trips there that i have been struck with a bit of a fetish for them. |
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[ QUOTE ] luckyjimm ... your trip reports make my day! I seriously want to take this opportunity to thank you for them. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Also, Jimm have you read any Bukowski? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think so - know about him, but never read a whole book. What would you recommend? |
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[ QUOTE ] Fifteen minutes later two policewomen arrived, [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps they assign the attractive ones to the rich neighborhood where my friend lives... but man i have seen so many super hot London Policewomen on my trips there that i have been struck with a bit of a fetish for them. [/ QUOTE ] http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/479/39bs1.gif |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] luckyjimm ... your trip reports make my day! I seriously want to take this opportunity to thank you for them. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Also, Jimm have you read any Bukowski? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think so - know about him, but never read a whole book. What would you recommend? [/ QUOTE ] I've read Ham on Rye and Factotum and enjoyed them both. Good stuff, generally about a degenerate alcoholic meandering through life and doing things on his own terms. I don't know exactly why, but your life reminds me of this guy a bit. (At least the life you have shared with us on the forums, and replacing alcoholism w/ a love for the gamboool.) |
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It will be sad day when you can no longer look down on someone of a lower class!
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