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If push comes to shove, and the dealers walk, as mentioned above, Wynn could replace them in milliseconds. That is, unless the other two unions honor the picket lines, and shut down the whole operation.

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You mean like they shut down the Frontier?

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Its going to take a very strong argument to convince the Wynn dealers to strike, they make too much money to walk away from their jobs for a week or more - and by that time they will know that Wynn has a scab replacement policy in place. With no contract in place, Wynn can fire staff indiscriminately if they walk - Wynn's #1 negotiating advantage.

of course once the union has a contract, Wynn can't fire so easily.

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With our without a contract, Wynn can hire permanent replacements in the event of an economic strike.

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Having been on the management side versus a strong union, life was very unpleasant. I hated the hotel union in Chicago.

Then I moved to Florida, where there aren't any. The wages and living standards are so low in the "right to work" states that you have a right to work but not a right to live with any decent standard.

Compare Nevada to Mississipi and see where the average worker is doing better. And it affects all jobs, too. 52s is dead on the money. The Culinary has done a great job of making it possible for working people to do well here, and nobody is complaining about it.

I don't like it when unions become obstructive, which they sometimes do. But I trust upper-level management even less.

Look at the disparity in income between avg work salary and CEOs' pay. It has increased from 7 times as much when this was a union country as late as the Sixties to now I think I heard 4,000 times. (The last time I was sure was 20 years ago when it was 450 times as much.)

I hope it works out for them. What Wynn did was wrong. If he's "seen the light" I'll be shocked. He has been wrong for too long now for me to believe he had an epiphany. Made me laugh, tho.

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Whoa, I didn't write anything worthy of you saying I was dead on the money with, just that I agree with Bicycles position.

The funny thing in all this is that the same problem that Steve was trying to fix (floor/bosses making less than the dealers) also occurs in pretty much all the poker rooms, yet there's enough sucke... dealers willing to move up to floor to make it a non-issue.

More later, damn dogs.

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Of course this little story cant be applied in its pure form to the situation at the Wynn...

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Extremely poor analogy TT. I think you need to self-delete that post.

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So the guy who took the most risk, along with the stock holders do not have the right to make as much as possible.
Even if Wynn was making 3 times this amount per 1/4, I say WOO HOOO for him.

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What does that have to do with this thread? None of the tip money is coming out of the company profits. It's tips that customers have given to a dealer. That money never goes to the company so it never gets recorded as revenue.

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Of course this little story cant be applied in its pure form to the situation at the Wynn...

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Extremely poor analogy TT. I think you need to self-delete that post.

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Extremely wrong. Well, I shouldn't use the word extremely... but you get the point. Read earlier in the thread when I responded to Stevie G to see why, its relevant because its standard operating procedure in the service industry to tip both up and down hence where Wynn probably got the idea from, but this hasn't been applied to dealer until now.

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So the guy who took the most risk, along with the stock holders do not have the right to make as much as possible.
Even if Wynn was making 3 times this amount per 1/4, I say WOO HOOO for him.

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What does that have to do with this thread? None of the tip money is coming out of the company profits. It's tips that customers have given to a dealer. That money never goes to the company so it never gets recorded as revenue.

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Can a tax expert please verify this? When I co-owned a nightclub some years ago tips on credit cards were recorded as company revenue, that we paid out to the wait staff.

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untrue. vegas cocktail waitresses are part of the union contract. they are all members. servers in vegas have been negotiating with the casino operators over their wages, hours, benefits, and working conditions since the 1960s, and THAT is why vegas servers earn so much more and have so many more benefits than their counterparts in non union cities.