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Makes sense. But could a team sign him so he's making some rediculous amount of money like $45 million a year for 3 years and then only $15 million for the last 4 years? Or just give him a $50 million signing bonus now so that in 4 years he is only making $15-20 million a year?

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Why would they do that? Money in the future is worth less than money now.

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Because owners/GM's are stupid sometimes. Look at how Hart outbid the Braves by $100 million to get A-Rod.

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What does that have to do with anything?

You suggested teams pay their players more up front so it "costs them less" in their later and worse years.


This makes no sense for the reason I stated.

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No one mentioned the most important part of the story. Steinbrenner thinks A-Rod is staying.

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There's a zero percect chance of that happening. No way does Arod want to deal with all the crap he gets in NY anymore.

Chicago would be a place I'd like to see him.

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0 %?

Lay me 20-1 then?

My 50 to win 1000? I'm betting a-rod stays in NY.

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What does that have to do with anything?

You suggested teams pay their players more up front so it "costs them less" in their later and worse years.


This makes no sense for the reason I stated.

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I'm just asking if a GM/owner would do such a thing. I never said it was a good idea nor do I think it's a good idea.

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I wish Torre would hand in his lineup card, and then leave the stadium. Screw Steinbrenner.

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What does that have to do with anything?

You suggested teams pay their players more up front so it "costs them less" in their later and worse years.


This makes no sense for the reason I stated.

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I'm just asking if a GM/owner would do such a thing. I never said it was a good idea nor do I think it's a good idea.

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A dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow. Every owner and their staff is familiar with this concept, so I think it would be unlikely we will see front loaded contracts. There are situations where back loaded contracts might make sense if the player would accept them (A-Rods was backloaded a little). In the case of the Diamondbacks, they are paying off a ton of deferred contracts from their world series team. If they could find a superstar to fill a gap on the team this offseason who would take less the first two seasons so they can finish paying off that debt, it would make sense.

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No one mentioned the most important part of the story. Steinbrenner thinks A-Rod is staying.

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There's a zero percect chance of that happening. No way does Arod want to deal with all the crap he gets in NY anymore.

Chicago would be a place I'd like to see him.

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0 %?

Lay me 20-1 then?

My 50 to win 1000? I'm betting a-rod stays in NY.

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A-rod's biggest dissapointment is not winning a world series for the Yankees. I think if he had the chance to stay another 7 years he'd take it in a heartbeat. I don't think he's the guy to back away from a challenge and he'd love to go down as a Yankee great. When he finally breaks out of this slump he'll be a total here. Did you see the applause for his first hit today?

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http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/2...ll_njmd103.jpg

This guy's a broken-down wreck physically and probably eats Viagra by the bottle just to keep his pretty wife happy. Time for Steinbrenner to mercifully relieve Torre of duty...

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Makes sense. But could a team sign him so he's making some rediculous amount of money like $45 million a year for 3 years and then only $15 million for the last 4 years? Or just give him a $50 million signing bonus now so that in 4 years he is only making $15-20 million a year?

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Why would they do that? Money in the future is worth less than money now.

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there are a few situations where this COULD make sense, i s'pose.

for instance, say for some reason teh team who signs him signs him to a deal like this, and in 5 years or so when arod begins to decline and for some reason the team is out of contention can sell arod without having to eat a gigantic amount of money to help pay the salary.

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No one mentioned the most important part of the story. Steinbrenner thinks A-Rod is staying.

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There's a zero percect chance of that happening. No way does Arod want to deal with all the crap he gets in NY anymore.

Chicago would be a place I'd like to see him.

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This is insane.

If Arod stays in New York, he gets more money and the Yankees get a discount. The only way he leaves is if Boras or Cashman do something incredibly stupid, or refuse to negotiate out of spite or some [censored].

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the biggest bonus for staying in NY, is arod's legacy. geez, can you imagine him breaking ruth's and barry's records at the NEW stadium? the house that ARod built.

i think he absolutely signs an extension, and he won't be throwing away very much (if any) money by doing so.

he has even said previously (several years ago) that he might play out the current contract and retire. now, i don't think he'll retire at 34 and 650 homers, but he's definitely not chasing that last 25 million for his 39/40yo seasons.

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The reason for him to stay in NY is because it is still probably his best chance to win a WS.
He's going to get big money wherever he goes.
Getting huge money vs. huger money isn't that big a deal. He's already got some serious dough.

He wants a freaking WS. And he would like to feel good about where he is in general. And the whole anti-ARod stuff in NY because he supposedly even clutch even immediately following a pretty spectacular season has to end up leaving a guy feeling a tad bitter about the fans/city but it's pretty difficult for an outsider to have any idea how it feels to play in front of millions of fans who go back and forth on whether they love him or think he sucks as they seem to do much of the time.

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Arod will leave if the Yankees lose this series. 100%. If Arod wants a WS, he will stay in NYY. But i don't think he wants it that badly. Plus, would you really want to stay somewhere where half the people hate you because you [censored] up 3-6 games a year? I wouldn't. Give me the 50+ million extra.

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I would think he would leave less because of the money and more to be less-hated by his own freakin fans for really ridiculous reasons.
Wherever he goes the line-up won't be supporting him as much but with some of the NY burden off of him I can only wonder if he'll put up even more insane numbers.
I definitely think his overall contentment at a fresh-start and new situation and just generally the enthusiasm of a new team and market thrilled to death to have him could really bolster his spirits and potentially lead to a huge season.

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I still think the Angels are as likely a destination as any.

Another thought; if he goes to the Cubs, he could become the guy who broke the curse of the goat. That's a pretty massive legacy to dream about.

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Arod will leave if the Yankees lose this series. 100%. If Arod wants a WS, he will stay in NYY. But i don't think he wants it that badly. Plus, would you really want to stay somewhere where half the people hate you because you [censored] up 3-6 games a year? I wouldn't. Give me the 50+ million extra.

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well there are a lot of retarded fans in New York, not sure he should care what a bunch of idiots think