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Jeff76 11-30-2007 06:56 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's just a different form of poker, people who whine about shortstackers are just too lazy to adapt.

[/ QUOTE ]I'm not too lazy to adapt. I make plenty of money from crappy shortstackers. I just think playing against shortstackers (good or not) isn't fun. When I want to play shortstack poker, I play STTs. I play NL HE for the complexity that comes with deeper stacks. It sucks when you can't make plays because a shortstacker is involved in the hand. It just makes the game less enjoyable.

So that's my frustration. It has nothing to do with profitability.

ledders07 11-30-2007 07:05 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
make another 5 Buy-ins at 10NL and make the move up to 25NL successfully

12K hands (at school)

manage 1-2PTBB/100 at 25NL to begin with

RUN GOOD ldo

edit: get my BR > post count whilst still posting regularly

wateronrock 11-30-2007 07:17 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
[image]http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...ley/Istink.jpg[/image]

Bad month for me.Plenty of bad play. My CPU [censored] the bed so I only have a partial graph...first 50K hands was slightly>breakeven.

I'm getting a bit burnt out but need to get my 300K VPP milestone bonus. Looking forward to a 2 week vacation after 7 months of grinding.

bottomset 11-30-2007 07:23 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's just a different form of poker, people who whine about shortstackers are just too lazy to adapt.

[/ QUOTE ]

you're wrong, its exploiting flaws in the online structure

ratholers are scum

mikeymer 11-30-2007 07:35 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
http://i1.tinypic.com/865khlu.jpg

funny month, had a couple donkament scores too.

SimaoMacaco 11-30-2007 08:12 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
[ QUOTE ]

you're wrong, its exploiting flaws in the online structure
ratholers are scum

[/ QUOTE ]

Yup.. its an error in the game as its set up with variable BIs. they just exploit an error in the system.. very sleazy. its a different game, no.. its called exploiting the rules to gain an unfair advantage over people that want to play for certain stakes.

Body Man D 11-30-2007 08:24 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
[ QUOTE ]
Goals for Nov.: Play better, run better and actually make money instead of donating.

[/ QUOTE ]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...dymand/Nov.jpg

Also 3.5k in bonuses. I actually lost $$ in cash tourneys but did win a PCA seat which netted to +6.5k.

All together a $20k month.

Hklm8383 11-30-2007 08:34 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
cashed all my fpp ship the 20k month

also made 2k on tilt but i consider fulltilt play money

Das Budrick 11-30-2007 08:44 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
play good run good.... [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

I was hoping 8 ptbb/100 at 100nl might be sustainable after I completely revamped my playing style, but after looking at PokerEV I think I just run awesome. BUT the green line is the highest! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3...7graph2qq5.png

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1...07statsax1.png


+300 in bonuses
+150 in sportsbetting
-250 in donkaments

December goals:

- get some sort of Ironman accomplishment, preferably Silver if I can play that much (finals suck dick imo)
- keep running hot
- take shots at 1/2
- get good grades for once
- STOP playing microstakes 6max when I'm wasted...

illini43 11-30-2007 08:46 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

you're wrong, its exploiting flaws in the online structure
ratholers are scum

[/ QUOTE ]

Yup.. its an error in the game as its set up with variable BIs. they just exploit an error in the system.. very sleazy. its a different game, no.. its called exploiting the rules to gain an unfair advantage over people that want to play for certain stakes.

[/ QUOTE ]


If the minimum buy-in is a certain amount, you should be allowed to sit at the table with that amount. I agree that ratholing isn't the best for the games, but there really isn't anyway to stop this besides the minimum time required to sit back at a table without buying in for what you left with. What would you advocate that could fix this problem, yet let joe recreational gambler plop down his minimum buy-in, donk around, double up and leave?

A game with variable buy-ins has different strategy, there will be different sized stacks no matter what.

I know people aren't going to agree with me on this, and I'm not expecting anyone too. I guess my main point is that people should be able to play within the rules of the game and use whatever strategy they desire. The advantage it has is making LAG play less profitable, but you limit yourself on how much you can win on a particular hand. If you think short-stacking isn't "real" poker, then tournaments aren't "real" poker, especially SNGs.

LearningCurve 11-30-2007 09:05 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
Goal was to move to 25NL by year's end. Made it just before the first 11K mark (not sure why there are two?).


http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...November-2.jpg


December goal is just to play well and to have fun. The rest will follow. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

RikaKazak 11-30-2007 09:06 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
Nov goals were to stay above 6 ptbb/100 and make over $20K....easily did both...had a $16.7K 2 week timespan at 2/4 (well, majority of it was 2/4) [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] even ran bad according to pokerev for those 2 weeks...was suppose to win $22.9K
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...nningsobad.jpg

(posted that graph on another site week or so ago)


Dec goals...kick butt in vegas [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Going to play the 10/20 at bellagio and if there's a soft spot sit in the 25/50 game...wish me luck [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

PokerFun007 11-30-2007 09:10 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
My goals for November were:

Play nl50 for 20K hands
Make $500 w/o bonuses

I played 20k hands, but not all at nl50 cuz sometimes I wasn't comfortable there early in the month. However, I ran goot mid-month and got the roll to close to 1k. I made just over 500 for the month, so I'll be grinding nl50 for December.

I'd like to do 15-20k hands and continue to be at 2+ ptbb and make $500+

If I succeed, the new year may call for new stakes...nl100???

illini43 11-30-2007 09:11 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
Here is my POS graph:

First 7,000 hands are 100NL and 50NL Full Ring

Rest is 100NL 6-max except hands 14.5k to 15.5k (more Full Ring and some 50NL 6-max).

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...43/nov2007.jpg

RyanCMU 11-30-2007 09:18 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
RikaKazak, when in Dec. you going to be in Vegas? I might be there 8th-13th.

I'll prolly be playing 30/60, maybe some 5/10NL, any experience previously w/ the 5/10NL or 10/20NL? Care to shed some light if you don't mind?

SgtJake 11-30-2007 09:20 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
Way to go LC! Happy for ya.

Play more hands. You have the skills to beat .25/.50, you just need the BR. GL

QTip 11-30-2007 09:22 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
Well...here's my AWESOME MONTH!!! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] A solid 0.93 ptbb/100 performance. Some of this is just from getting hit, but plenty of it comes from playing a non-winning/be game.

I took this month to really mess with my game. I tried A LOT of different things this month and it was a good experiment. I found a lot of different ways to play losing/breakeven poker. I played 1/2 almost exclusively while doing this. I'm doing the 20+ table jive now, and that definitely puts a wrench in my concentration/playing level. However, I think I've been able to put together the type of poker I'm going to play while doing that.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1184/ographcq7.jpg

My goal for December is simply to start applying what I've put together for my 20+table game sprinkling in 2/4 and 3/6 again. Also, I think I want to spend maybe an hour or two a week playing 3/6 and 5/10 one or two tabling.

PokerFun007 11-30-2007 09:34 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
What does it mean on the PokerEV graph that has net winnings where mine for the month is at +500, but sklansky and expected are at +1200?

Grinding2Ecstasy 11-30-2007 09:47 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dont know how I managed to win this month but whatever. Felt like I played very well for most of the month but ran so bad it was sick. Stealing Hellmuth's words if I can just have some below average luck next month Ill win 30k

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...y10587/NOV.png

+4k milestone bonus

[/ QUOTE ]
Summary of GrandMelon's Month -

ZOMG I RUN SO BAD
ZOMG THIS MONTH IS SO FREAKIN INSANE
ZOMG THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL I LOSE SO BAD RUN SO BAD
ZOMG I PLAY 7 LEVELS OF POKER LOSE ALL BUT ONE
THO, I STILL MADE 15k+ PLAYIN POKER
30k NEXT MONTH OR AUTOENDLIFE

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Grinding2Ecstasy 11-30-2007 09:55 PM

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[ QUOTE ]

Shortstackers aren't some unbeatable force!

[/ QUOTE ]

No they are just annoying and pathetic parasites who aren't actual poker players.

1p0kerboy 11-30-2007 09:58 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
Congratulations to those that had a killer month. Dilith and BodyManD stand out to me but I know there were a lot others.

My month was kinda meh but I'll definitely take it after struggling a little in October. I managed to take some time off for the Thanksgiving holiday which was great.

+$6070 in winnings
+$3000 in bonuses
0/6 in the VIP freerolls

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7167/graph1op4.jpg

December goals:
December should be a good month as I should clear $8,000 in bonuses.

1. Take some time off from poker for the holidays.
2. Limit my play to 20 tables to reduce misclicks and stupid mistakes that are costing me money.
3. Read Killer Poker By the Numbers.

I guess that's it. Merry Christmas everybody.

GrandMelon 11-30-2007 10:16 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Dont know how I managed to win this month but whatever. Felt like I played very well for most of the month but ran so bad it was sick. Stealing Hellmuth's words if I can just have some below average luck next month Ill win 30k

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...y10587/NOV.png

+4k milestone bonus

[/ QUOTE ]
Summary of GrandMelon's Month -

ZOMG I RUN SO BAD
ZOMG THIS MONTH IS SO FREAKIN INSANE
ZOMG THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL I LOSE SO BAD RUN SO BAD
ZOMG I PLAY 7 LEVELS OF POKER LOSE ALL BUT ONE
THO, I STILL MADE 15k+ PLAYIN POKER
30k NEXT MONTH OR AUTOENDLIFE

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

i loled

RapidEvolution 11-30-2007 10:22 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Dont know how I managed to win this month but whatever. Felt like I played very well for most of the month but ran so bad it was sick. Stealing Hellmuth's words if I can just have some below average luck next month Ill win 30k

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...y10587/NOV.png

+4k milestone bonus

[/ QUOTE ]
Summary of GrandMelon's Month -

ZOMG I RUN SO BAD
ZOMG THIS MONTH IS SO FREAKIN INSANE
ZOMG THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL I LOSE SO BAD RUN SO BAD
ZOMG I PLAY 7 LEVELS OF POKER LOSE ALL BUT ONE
THO, I STILL MADE 15k+ PLAYIN POKER
30k NEXT MONTH OR AUTOENDLIFE

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

i loled

[/ QUOTE ]

If we superimposed my graph onto this one, it'd look like a flat red line at the bottom. lol [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

pattay 11-30-2007 10:48 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
brag: +8320 approximately
beat: more from fpp's and bonii than money won
brag: got my HUD working on the 30th finally
beat: pokergrapher still wont work
brag: im buzzed and soon to be drunk
beat: female horizon wasnt as sunny as i would have liked
brag: im going to jamaica for winter break in december
beat: i no longer get free weed, my friend stopped pushing
brag: im so balla i can buy it anyway
beat: not going to the pca
brag: im better at poker now that im not 4701934891 tabling
variance: someone from my cousin's high school, who i do not know at all or have any affiliation with, asked my cousin if she was related to me, and claimed to have heard of me cause i was the kid that "won like 10k from online poker" (and we dont have the same last name, her high school and my old home are about 45 min away. Weird.

k thanks for listening to the rant

RikaKazak 11-30-2007 11:21 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
RikaKazak, when in Dec. you going to be in Vegas? I might be there 8th-13th.

I'll prolly be playing 30/60, maybe some 5/10NL, any experience previously w/ the 5/10NL or 10/20NL? Care to shed some light if you don't mind?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll be there 6th-10th...pm if you're interested in swapping numbers and maybe meeting up and getting a few drinks.

never played the 5/10...the 10/20 was soft though...it's like an "average late night" 2/4 table on stars. 2 fish...2 soft spots..3 ok...2 good

SABR42 11-30-2007 11:25 PM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
I needed to make $1K today to break $10K for the month. Did just that.

Legit $10K month before bonuses. I was lazy and didn't play that many hands:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...er10Kholla.jpg

Overall I'm up $15K since October 24th:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...5weekgraph.jpg

Poker is eazy.

HesseJam 12-01-2007 12:03 AM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
-previous month goals (didnt habe any)
-previous month actuals (dna)
-next month goals (not sucking at PL+NL2)

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8858/novemberhl1.jpg

HesseJam 12-01-2007 12:12 AM

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BTW, how come I absolutely KILL PL50 and NL50 @ +10 ptbb (50K hands), play a mediocre 100 game (50K hands) @ 2 ptbb and SUCK at the 200 games @ - 5 ptbb?

the_main 12-01-2007 12:18 AM

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No graphs/stats because I'm on my new laptop, but I posted it to my blog.

Anyways, my month was ~$9500, but $5500 was bonuses so basically I suck. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Goal in decemeber is to hit $5k milstone and quit for the year.

Semtex 12-01-2007 12:24 AM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
November goals:

play 50k hands
attain platinum star
move back to 50NL

goals met? zero. still not a bad month i guess. pounded 25NL to the tune of 5.6PTBB/100. december goals will be the same.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...r2007Graph.jpg

Grinding2Ecstasy 12-01-2007 12:24 AM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
how are you guys all earning 8 gazillion in pokerstars bonuses this month. making me and my paltry 1250 of rakeback at full tilt feel bad.

Semtex 12-01-2007 12:26 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
how are you guys all earning 8 gazillion in pokerstars bonuses this month. making me and my paltry 1250 of rakeback at full tilt feel bad.

[/ QUOTE ]
the joy that is being supernova

chip-star 12-01-2007 12:32 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
how are you guys all earning 8 gazillion in pokerstars bonuses this month. making me and my paltry 1250 of rakeback at full tilt feel bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

Milestone bonuses ?

RyanCMU 12-01-2007 12:59 AM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
Here is my SSNL graph for November. I played about 1/3rd of my usual hours, however, when I did put in the hours, I was playing more then 12 tables for the first time ever, which I think explains my drop in WR. This is by far my worst month ever in terms of $won and WR [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] FU 20.54 MT ratio!

At least, I did well in my LHE hands this month (not pictured, obv) So the month didn't totally suck. Also, cleared (2) $1500 bonuses.

December goals, go back to 12 tables, play majority of my play at 200NL and get better at NL in comparison to my other games.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4294/ssnlnovjg6.jpg

bottomset 12-01-2007 01:03 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
Congratulations to those that had a killer month. Dilith and BodyManD stand out to me but I know there were a lot others.

My month was kinda meh but I'll definitely take it after struggling a little in October. I managed to take some time off for the Thanksgiving holiday which was great.

+$6070 in winnings
+$3000 in bonuses
0/6 in the VIP freerolls

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7167/graph1op4.jpg

December goals:
December should be a good month as I should clear $8,000 in bonuses.

1. Take some time off from poker for the holidays.
2. Limit my play to 20 tables to reduce misclicks and stupid mistakes that are costing me money.
3. Read Killer Poker By the Numbers.

I guess that's it. Merry Christmas everybody.

[/ QUOTE ]

wait you only played 1500hands?

Grinding2Ecstasy 12-01-2007 01:11 AM

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heh yea i thought same, i think its 150k hands

Chargers In 07 12-01-2007 01:12 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
wait you only played 1500hands?

[/ QUOTE ] I think those are by the ten thousands, he actually played 1.5M hands.

bottomset 12-01-2007 01:13 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
wait you only played 1500hands?

[/ QUOTE ] I think those are by the ten thousands, he actually played 1.5M hands.

[/ QUOTE ]

if true he was like FGators bad the first 700k

Zeclion 12-01-2007 01:13 AM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
[ QUOTE ]
Goals for September:

- I need to improve my game a lot
- Run Better
- Play 20K hands
- Play less tables for the start of the month

[/ QUOTE ]

Results
I only really set one completly tangable goal, play 20K hands. I got to 18K, so I was a little short. I did play alot less tables at the start of this month (6 tables) but ended the month now playing 12.

That being said last month was -$33.00 this month was a little better:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9...ber2007pc8.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3...ber2007ky7.jpg

This month was a little better. I'm going to make my goals for this month a little more accountable.

- Play 25K hands
- Get my post count up to at least 50
- Move up to 25NL
- Try to make silver star VIP

I think it's time to for me to start posting more often.

the_main 12-01-2007 01:18 AM

Re: *** Official November Graphs/Results & December Goals Thread ***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
how are you guys all earning 8 gazillion in pokerstars bonuses this month. making me and my paltry 1250 of rakeback at full tilt feel bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

Milestone bonuses ?

[/ QUOTE ]

ding

end of the year means bigger bonuses. $6.5 coming in december.


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