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clay it's more then that pretty sure since poker wasn't the only thing they tried to steal from.

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2nd time you've said this, but you've killed them in BJ... what you hinting at?

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clay it's more then that pretty sure since poker wasn't the only thing they tried to steal from.

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AP BJ?

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man I need to pay someone to kep track of all the latest developments, I read on P5 that 'steamroller' has now been linked to another AP bigwig, can anyone confirm/deny?

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end of the old thread

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Again, great job to everyone involved, awesome sleuthing work. Including but certainly not limited to, TheWacoKidd, N82, Adanthar...

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gg everyone, gg.

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If I may connect a few dots...

According to the wayback machine (www.archive.org), the statement on AP's site that they are owned by a Kahnawake sole proprietorship did not appear on the site until after June, 2007.

Scott Tom stopped shilling for AP on 2p2 around June, 2007.

The questionable playing started soon after June, 2007.

I am guessing that a statement will be released that the ex-owner compromised a number of accounts and Absolute had no idea the hole existed, hence the denials.

Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)
 

Wow decided to take a break from midterm studying to see an update, very pleasing results.

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Nat and adanthar should never have to buy a drink or meal at any poker event again ever.

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wow go bbv

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Unless at least a halfdozen people goes to jail 30y+, nothing has really been achieved ... next time they do it they wont be so blatant.

I hope people get some of their money back tho especially all those that were pwned by other accounts and at other stakes than those discussed in the threads [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

my2

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this is cool imo

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[censored] the audit, people need to go to jail.

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Agreed. We have some group of ex-frat brothers that set up this company and then proceeded to cheat their customer out of tons (1 mil?) money. There is no telling what Absolute has done to its customers in the past. How long has this been going on?

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People shoulld be killed for this type of [censored] IMO. Unfortunately for me people probably won't even go to jail. It would be really nice if at least a few ended up going to jail or at least losing everything they have in terms of reputation and credability internationally.

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people should hold their judgement and contain their excitement and limit their speculation until more information comes out

also, nice admo nice

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If I may connect a few dots...

According to the wayback machine (www.archive.org), the statement on AP's site that they are owned by a Kahnawake sole proprietorship did not appear on the site until after June, 2007.

Scott Tom stopped shilling for AP on 2p2 around June, 2007.

The questionable playing started soon after June, 2007.

I am guessing that a statement will be released that the ex-owner compromised a number of accounts and Absolute had no idea the hole existed, hence the denials.

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NH

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baby steps. next drama bomb gonna be fun imo.

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[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] adanthar for his expert behind-the-scenes wrangling of sources and info

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] admo for his expert art/comedy

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ADMO for T-shirt designer! Love to get a T-shirt with both pics on front and back!

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lol they are only doing this because you guys are too smart and digging deeper you are going to probably find more improprieties. Probably something even more earth shattering. What about the tournaments how are people going to be refunded or do 2+2ers need to look through all of db and find every suscpious person.

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I am guessing that a statement will be released that the ex-owner compromised a number of accounts and Absolute had no idea the hole existed, hence the denials.

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let's just say that if this statement is AP 8.0 quality and not AP 9.0 quality, I reserve the right to keep on digging until I get bored, and so far, this has been the highlight of my month

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A huge thanks to Adanthar + N825024 + Josem and everyone else for being hugely awesome in following this through.

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lol they are only doing this because you guys are too smart and digging deeper you are going to probably find more improprieties. Probably something even more earth shattering. What about the tournaments how are people going to be refunded or do 2+2ers need to look through all of db and find every suscpious person.

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Again, we have NOTHING on any other user. One screenshot didn't list tourneys were he didn't cash and the other contained two tournaments.

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I am guessing that a statement will be released that the ex-owner compromised a number of accounts and Absolute had no idea the hole existed, hence the denials.

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let's just say that if this statement is AP 8.0 quality and not AP 9.0 quality, I reserve the right to keep on digging until I get bored, and so far, this has been the highlight of my month

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Seems like with multiple leaks from good samaritans who work for AP, there's nothing they can really do but tell the truth.

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people should hold their judgement and contain their excitement and limit their speculation until more information comes out

also, nice admo nice

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gg

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lol they are only doing this because you guys are too smart and digging deeper you are going to probably find more improprieties. Probably something even more earth shattering. What about the tournaments how are people going to be refunded or do 2+2ers need to look through all of db and find every suscpious person.

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I feel like there were some more accounts involved. It would be really nice if Absolute can find the rest of the accounts instead of having the smart 2+2ers do all of the detective work.

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Oh, and NLfool, can I get a bigger version of your avatar?

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so far, this has been the highlight of my year

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fyp

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lol they are only doing this because you guys are too smart and digging deeper you are going to probably find more improprieties. Probably something even more earth shattering. What about the tournaments how are people going to be refunded or do 2+2ers need to look through all of db and find every suscpious person.

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I feel like there were some more accounts involved. It would be really nice if Absolute can find the rest of the accounts instead of having the smart 2+2ers do all of the detective work.

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Agree.

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that was pretty quick

cant wait to see the statement

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fyp

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fmp

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If AP survives this it's just a green light for other sites not to care what happens internally. It's definitely not a "wash" by simply returning the money. That doesn't make it okie dokie.

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again, is the cash game situation going to be addressed too?

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Watching this has been better than playing poker. GG all who could and did contribute.

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NL fool is right, and this
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I reserve the right to keep on digging until I get bored, and so far, this has been the highlight of my month

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should probably happen. Nobody's gonna go to jail over this, but AP should lose as much credibility as possible.
I don't want them to be shut down. I don't want the story to be so widely publicized it fuels anti-online poker in the states. I want them to lose advertising contracts and space, so new players are discouraged from signing up with them, thereby discouraging other sites from repeating their mistakes.

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This is great news.

Still a little scary that they'll intentionally sweep something under the rug.

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Indeed, good news. And yes, scary that they'll admit something. Might be a lot more dirt out there and they dont want anyone to find out...

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If AP survives this it's just a green light for other sites not to care what happens internally. It's definitely not a "wash" by simply returning the money. That doesn't make it okie dokie.

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It will cost them $$$$ if they cannot recover it from the bad guys.

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I feel like the next step is to start to formulate questions that need to be answered for this issue to be considered resolved.

My question would be: Was the person who sent out the origin Excel file a whistleblower or was it an accident? Is that person still working for Absolute? If that person was fired as a whistleblower then no explanation of the security breach could bring me back as a player.

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Someone needs to forward the press release to media, so people who read the original story can see they haven't just been accused, but convicted.

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Nat and adanthar should never have to buy a drink or meal at any poker event again ever.

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people should hold their judgement and contain their excitement and limit their speculation until more information comes out

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also, nice admo nice
# 2 thank you

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i feel disgusted that something like this happened in the first place