Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

In N Out double doubles = performance enhancing.

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

One HGH study found senior citizens gained weight using it, but wasn't sure if was water weight. Senior citizens with declining HGH levels != highly trained young athletes.

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

Lifting weights= performance enhancing!!

Jason Tyner can't compete with all these cheaters

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

Stupid question/thought: If Byrd was prescribed HGH by his doctor, why in heaven's name was he buying it off the internet with a credit card and, presumably, inject himself? Does he not have health insurance? Shouldn't the team doctor's or trainers have been injecting him?

Like I said I don't really care, but I think Paul Byrd is full of [censored] with his explanation.

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

He was prescribed it by a doctor? You sure?

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

At the very least can we now PLEASE retire these silly "ZOMG look at how huge Bonds is he obv is on something" arguments?

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

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At the very least can we now PLEASE retire these silly "ZOMG look at how huge Bonds is he obv is on something" arguments?

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Never, If you think what Byrd did is anywhere close to all the wrongs Bonds has done to the name of baseball, you, my friend, are living in fantasy land.

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

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At the very least can we now PLEASE retire these silly "ZOMG look at how huge Bonds is he obv is on something" arguments?

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Never, If you think what Byrd did is anywhere close to all the wrongs Bonds has done to the name of baseball, you, my friend, are living in fantasy land.

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All the wrongs HE has done to the name of baseball or all the bad things that will be accredited to him?

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

He cheated baseball dude, PERIOD.

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He cheated baseball dude, PERIOD.

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Ok. I mean yeah its unfair he was robbed of all those HRs because of steroids but it seems more like baseball has cheated him.

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

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He was prescribed it by a doctor? You sure?

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That's what he's claiming.

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He was prescribed it by a doctor? You sure?

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That's what he's claiming.

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I was just alluding to the fact that 2 of the scripts were written by a dentist, a dentist who is no longer practicing due to fraud.

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He cheated baseball dude, PERIOD.

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Barry Bonds did NOT cheat baseball, dude. EXCLAMATION POINT.

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

DUDE YES HE DID ITS AN UNDENIABLE FACT

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Stupid question/thought: If Byrd was prescribed HGH by his doctor, why in heaven's name was he buying it off the internet with a credit card and, presumably, inject himself? Does he not have health insurance? Shouldn't the team doctor's or trainers have been injecting him?

Like I said I don't really care, but I think Paul Byrd is full of [censored] with his explanation.

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a) Maybe because he didn't stay in town during the offseason, and needed to inject daily, and didn't want to trek to his doctors office every day. I once had a diabetic cat, and his team trainers/doctors weren't available to inject him every day so I had to do it. I hear there are also diabetic people who actually practice the strange art of self injection.

b) Maybe he was hiding it from the team, even though HGH wasn't a banned substance at the time, but he was worried about giving them too much information on his health in case they would trade or cut him.

c) Maybe he knew even though it was not a banned substance, it would look bad, and would soon be banned, so he didn't want people to know he was taking it.

d) Maybe he was just taking it because he believed it enhanced his performance and he hadn't yet worked out an elaborate story to cover that usage yet.

I don't really care if it's a, b, c, or d, or some combination of them. Just because a player believes HGH is going to help enhance his performance, why should we care if available medical evidence indicates it won't? Should we prevent players from taking any other sorts of placebos?

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

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DUDE YES HE DID ITS AN UNDENIABLE FACT

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By lifting weights?

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

lol, just assume anything thayer says is sarcasm.

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

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Weird gossip about Williams. Kimberly Bell was interviewed last week on local radio station KNBR. Tom Tolbert and Ralph Barbieri did the interview. The only part of the interview I heard was un-remarkable. But I guess Williams was really freaked out about Bell going on that program and was harassing her and begging her not to go on the show. He even made up this big lie that if she did the interview Ralph Barbieri was going to ambush her and let Bonds lawyer rip her pieces on air.

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I was listening to a little bit of the Bell interview and all of Barbieri's tirade about Lance Williams. I agree, that was a little weird, if true. Why would Williams not want Bell to come on the show?

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lol, just assume anything thayer says is sarcasm.

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I mean seriously.

I feel like when I try to be sarcastic I do a pretty good job at conveying the sarcastic tone.

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Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

CAPS ISN'T A TONE THAYER

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CAPS ISN'T A TONE THAYER

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That's just semantics

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

Byrd is the first player I remember hearing comment about this type of accusation and sound completely honest.

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CAPS ISN'T A TONE THAYER

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That's just semantics

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I feel like when I try to be sarcastic I do a pretty good job at conveying the sarcastic tone.

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Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

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He cheated baseball dude, PERIOD.

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Is there evidence that he took banned substances when they were actually banned?

Re: Paul Byrd bought HGH (Williams/Fainaru-Wada)
 

BTW did you guys see the graphic they put up on SC today comparing Byrd's numbers pre-2002 and post-2002? It was hilarious. They are taking this very seriously and think they have some concrete evidence that he really was juicing the [censored] out of it. It was classic. Not sure why they picked 2002 as the cutoff (well, yes I am sure, it gives dramatic stat breakdowns) but it was priceless. He was like a .500 pitcher pre-2002, and a .700 pitcher post-2002. Clearly the result of HGH.

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CAPS ISN'T A TONE THAYER

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That's just semantics

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lets not start with that again

or at least wait for the lawyer to make a fool of himself