Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 

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I'm looking to get it in on this flop

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Almost 200bbs deep, really? I hope you're not advocating a shove here.

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 

Bet less on the flop. $1 or even $1.5 is fine. Overbetting isn't necessary. And in this case a smaller lead might have resulted in a smaller raise.

I'm usually willing to give up tons of equity OOP in unraised pots with 2-pair hands in order to avoid the reverse implied odds. 2-pair in an unraised pot is often a sucker hand, especially if straights and flushes are possible, and double especially OOP. So, I'd either fold to the big flop raise, or call the raise once to see if I hit a miracle boat on the turn, and c/f when the spade comes.

If your read on villain is that he'd raise the flop with top pair only, and then bet the turn with top pair plus one big spade, then c/c the turn and c/c the river is fine. He might show up with less than top two pair. But not very often.

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 

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I'm looking to get it in on this flop

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Almost 200bbs deep, really? I hope you're not advocating a shove here.
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I didn't really notice how deep they were but I would probably make a $20ish 3 bet and call a shove if he does. I wouldn't just 3 bet shove all in but I would get it in here if the villian wants to. We are +ev vs everything but sets and the only one I would consider is a set of 7's.

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 

If I 3bet flop and he shoves, am I snapcalling or folding? I'd probably puke if he shoved over. My problem with this hand was putting him on a range of hands. I was planning to c/f river, but his river bet was so small I felt obligated to call.

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 

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If I 3bet flop and he shoves, am I snapcalling or folding?

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You have to put him on a set to fold your hand so I'm calling here if he shoved. Like I said before, the only hand that I'm worried about is 77. I'm comfortable getting 2 BI's in as a slight favorite though if need be, some people might not be though.

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 

I think getting it in on the flop is ok.

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37,620 games 0.005 secs 7,524,000 games/sec

Board: 8s Kc Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.997% 57.54% 05.45% 21648 2051.50 { KhTh }
Hand 1: 37.003% 31.55% 05.45% 11869 2051.50 { TT, 88, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, KsQs, KsJs, KTs, Ks9s, K8s, Ks7s, Ks6s, Ks5s, Ks4s, Ks3s, Ks2s, QsJs, Qs9s, Js9s, Js7s, T8s, 9s7s, 7s6s, KTo, K8o, T8o }

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 

Well I just can't see this villain 4betting with something that I have beat. 77 didn't set up on this board

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 

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Well I just can't see this villain 4betting with something that I have beat. 77 didn't set up on this board

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Look at Chargers post, he has a range that seems pretty accurate for what this villain would 4bet shove on the flop with and you've got great equity, so you shouldn't be afraid of getting it in.

As for the hand, from calling the flop raise onwards it just seems way too passive/weak. Pump the flop and stay in control of the hand.