Re: 25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb
 

It was not hitting your draw on the turn that was terrible.

Re: 25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb
 

yeah its a leak that im working on. im getting coached now so that should stop

Re: 25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb
 

Anybody else think that raising KQo OOP against two limpers is a very bad idea. I do it like, never.

Re: 25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb
 

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Anybody else think that raising KQo OOP against two limpers is a very bad idea. I do it like, never.

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i do it like always!

cbet is fine, we have OESD + overs
turn I like a blocking bet, as played we have to fold

Re: 25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb
 

I don't like the preflop raise from OOP.

On the flop you probably felt you had to take the lead, but your flop bet comes across as weak.
The bet was also dubious because the board was so coordinated and in the playing zone, not to mention the fact you were out of position.

I prefer a check as betting the flop is unlikely to fold your opponent seeing much of his preflop range would connect in some way with this type of flop, and he also had the luxury of "seeing what you do" on the turn due to his position.

The poster who said "...you were after information the only question is once he gave you the information why call the re raise" is wrong. Not wrong in principle, but wrong because the reraise was so small.

Calling his small raise gave you 4.6 to 1 immediate odds to draw for your straight, not to mention that if you hit you had a good chance to stack the villain....but even if the villain would only pay off a small bet on the turn or river it is profitable to call here.

On the turn you had to fold.

Re: 25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb
 

KQ is way ahead of a poster and a limper's range.

which hand would BTN have that he doesnt raise preflop and has us dominated?

not raising pf is terrible, imo.
OOP or not, KQ is strong compared to their ranges.

i cbet every flop HU especially when i have a draw.

Re: 25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb
 

Raise a bit more pre-flop.

Bet bigger on the flop....call the tiny raise.

Fold to the nearly pot sized turn bet.

Re: 25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb
 

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which hand would BTN have that he doesnt raise preflop and has us dominated?

not raising pf is terrible, imo.
OOP or not, KQ is strong compared to their ranges.

i cbet every flop HU especially when i have a draw.

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True.. KQ is probably ahead of their range. We were not given any info on opponents style so not sure what % of his range they make up but in $25 NL many villains will limp and call a raise with Ax and small pairs, both of which are commonly played and ahead of us.

Being out of position for all betting rounds makes it rather hard to play. Not saying you should always back off when oop but sometimes I think it's ok to play passively when oop with hands like KQ. If you hit TP it's hard to get paid off as it's so transparent and it's easy to lose a lot acting first with no information.

Maybe it's a weakness in my own game but I hate playing hands like this OOP unless I have good info on my opponent.
Some spots are dodgy to Cbet (bad position, coordinated board with 2 broadway cards).

Re: 25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb
 

yes, that is a weakness of yours. stop being such a nit and learn to play some hands oop. if you never raise oop you will never get action when you have a big hand.

Re: 25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb
 

raise bigger preflop - I raise almost ATC when some moran posts and checks through - I make it $2 to play here.

pot the flop.

turn is standard.