Re: 50NL - Post/special - Line Check
 

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I c/f the flop.

Is there really much value in playing a multi-way unraised pot with top-pair-crap-kicker-chity-draw?

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ummm....cant c/f here. an there is value...just slim/high variance value

Re: 50NL - Post/special - Line Check
 

I would raise this preflop with just the EP poster on the CO since we are getting into the whole hand.

Re: 50NL - Post/special - Line Check
 

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I would raise this preflop with just the EP poster on the CO since we are getting into the whole hand.

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surprised it took 2 pages for this to get said. i decided not to cuz the blind was so short (he had what my raise wud have been), which wud have given limper odds on the way back. and even tho im in position, id prefer 87 rather than Q9o...

i normally wud attack from this spot

Re: 50NL - Post/special - Line Check
 

SB is either going to be super loose with this stack +EV, or really tight with this stack still +EV. I would still iso the poster because he is folding pre a vast majority. Hes also folding flops imo.

Re: 50NL - Post/special - Line Check
 

lol...im dumb. didnt even see it was a poster over there. thought it was a limp. i suck

Re: 50NL - Post/special - Line Check
 

I'm not sure by how much, but our equity's definitely a little worse against a range with 22 instead of 33.

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I stoved some and here's what I got.

Board: Qc Qd 7d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.402% 43.50% 01.90% 823 36.00 { Qh9d }
Hand 1: 54.598% 52.70% 01.90% 997 36.00 { 77, 33, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, KQs, KdJd, KdTd, QTs+, JdTd, Td9d, Td8d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 7d6d, 6d5d, 6d4d, 5d4d, 5d3d, 43s, Ad7c, Ad7h, Ad7s, KQo, QTo+ }

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Re: 50NL - Post/special - Line Check
 

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I'm not sure by how much, but our equity's definitely a little worse against a range with 22 instead of 33.

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I stoved some and here's what I got.

Board: Qc Qd 7d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.402% 43.50% 01.90% 823 36.00 { Qh9d }
Hand 1: 54.598% 52.70% 01.90% 997 36.00 { 77, 33, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, KQs, KdJd, KdTd, QTs+, JdTd, Td9d, Td8d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 7d6d, 6d5d, 6d4d, 5d4d, 5d3d, 43s , Ad7c, Ad7h, Ad7s, KQo, QTo+ }

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It'd also be nice if he didn't have any old 43 suited too. LOL. Here.

Board: Qc Qd 7d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.467% 28.26% 02.21% 460 36.00 { Qh9d }
Hand 1: 69.533% 67.32% 02.21% 1096 36.00 { 77, 22, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, KQs, KdJd, KdTd, QTs+, JdTd, Td8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 6d5d, 6d4d, 5d4d, 5d3d, 4d3d, Ad7c, Ad7h, Ad7s, KQo, QTo+ }

I knew it couldn't be right that we were in that good of shape.

Re: 50NL - Post/special - Line Check
 

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I c/f the flop.

Is there really much value in playing a multi-way unraised pot with top-pair-crap-kicker-chity-draw?

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ummm....cant c/f here. an there is value...just slim/high variance value

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Let's get into why you can't c/f this flop? You're invested nothing, and you're hand isn't that great.

Re: 50NL - Post/special - Line Check
 

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I would raise this preflop with just the EP poster on the CO since we are getting into the whole hand.

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surprised it took 2 pages for this to get said. i decided not to cuz the blind was so short (he had what my raise wud have been), which wud have given limper odds on the way back. and even tho im in position, id prefer 87 rather than Q9o...

i normally wud attack from this spot

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Q9o >> 87s allin vs wide ranges

getting Q9o AI for 5bb getting 9/5 is +EV

Re: 50NL - Post/special - Line Check
 

I think one of the main reasons he can't c/f the flop is because somebody already bet and he has yet to act. Hard to check-fold when you can't check.

Seriously though, he's getting big time pot odds to call. With four people to act behind, this could be a fold. But with one? You're spewing if you don't call.