Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 

I think you played it perfect and I check river, unless villain is on the nit side.

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 

But when we get "blown off our hand" by an unremarkable villain, he has us pretty much toast every time. A dream situation is we catch a non-club 5 on the turn against villain's 55 without a club. We're just never in great shape but we can take the pot down enough of a time to make a cbet before villain catches up.

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 

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I generally b/3bai this flop.

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Puke, villain is going to be way too strong and our hand is not going to have nearly enough equity to shove when he raises this flop.

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You don't think he's raising with hands like clubs/tens? Or do you think they'll call?

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My impression is he wouldn't c/r and then fold anything. He's not a maniac or anything. And anything he'd c/r with is ahead of us by a little or a lot. Just one of those passive guys that tries to make a hand and show it down in various random ways.

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 

I don't like trying to push him off chop either as this is a good spot to trap w/ a ten.

I usually cbet this OOP, but check in position.

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 

check the river, you can't rep a T after flop and turn action, villain could have one though.

Flop is a check, your equity vs his hands that continues isn't fantastic plus you have showdown value. turn is good obv.

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 

Without being results oriented, I think this is a c-bet on the flop in position here all day long. Granted, I'm C-betting in position all day long here on pretty much any flop. As played, the turn and river are very standard. His range on the turn would seem like some sort of set (missed c/r on flop), or him butchering any 10. His river play kind of rules the 10 out though if he is any type of competent. I am not sure if you could get him off the chop, but I would say against an unknown you should just check behind and either take half the pot or own him for playing his hand horrible and getting zero value from it.

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 

Wow, why do so many people check behind on this flop? He misses it so much here it isn't funny. Even when he doesn't miss it completely, you might still be ahead.

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 

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But when we get "blown off our hand" by an unremarkable villain, he has us pretty much toast every time. A dream situation is we catch a non-club 5 on the turn against villain's 55 without a club. We're just never in great shape but we can take the pot down enough of a time to make a cbet before villain catches up.

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He's almost always got a piece/your betting must cease

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Wow, why do so many people check behind on this flop? He misses it so much here it isn't funny. Even when he doesn't miss it completely, you might still be ahead.

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He flat-called from the blind/you are often behind

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 

You may not like it, but you better learn to love it. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


(i.e. Check behind the river)