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tarheeljks 11-24-2007 05:43 PM

Re: NL50, is this rivercall weak?
 
given his stats it's weird that he waited until the river to raise. however, he's playing so many hands that in addition to slowplayed sets he could be raising weaker two pair hands.


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saying its "pretty wet" seems like an exaggeration. its not very dry but its not very wet either. all it really is is a club FD, and some of the suited hands have straight draws...not like most of his range is hitting/getting a draw here

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villain's vpip is 60, so this board is wet.

edit: it's wet anyway. if this board isn't wet, what is a wet board.

tannenj 11-24-2007 05:43 PM

Re: NL50, is this rivercall weak?
 
i would probably just call the river raise as played. shoving can't bet terrible, but it would certainly be thin. fwiw, though, i really think you need to pot, pot, shove.

Micro Donk 11-24-2007 05:44 PM

Re: NL50, is this rivercall weak?
 
agree to disagree then

limit refugee 11-24-2007 05:47 PM

Re: NL50, is this rivercall weak?
 
I like the call, 140 bb is enough that if I'm torn between him having slow played trips and A2 and the posible straight I can live without throwing my stack in even with top two.

River raises still mean alot.

TomBrooks 11-24-2007 06:33 PM

Re: NL50, is this rivercall weak?
 
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Once he minraises that river, what range do you assign him? the only raise I can make is to put him AI. Would that be too reckless?

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Aces over, a T9 straight, 54 possible, especially suited in [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], maybe AK. The straight seems too likely for me to want to reraise.

members_only 11-24-2007 07:25 PM

Re: NL50, is this rivercall weak?
 
I think call is fine, though it's close. A lot of the time he will actually just call down with a weaker 2 pair (ie he wont put that minraise in on the river.)

Khaos4k 11-24-2007 08:20 PM

Re: NL50, is this rivercall weak?
 
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agree to disagree then

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What is your definition of a wet flop?

Ace0fSpades 11-24-2007 08:24 PM

Re: NL50, is this rivercall weak?
 
You played this hand fine, the river call is an absolute must given the amount in the pot. From a villain running 60/10/2, this could easily be a random two pair or a hand like AJ+. Sometimes you will run into a straight or set here, but folding is just incorrect given the amount of times he shows up with garbage.

monkover 11-24-2007 08:27 PM

Re: NL50, is this rivercall weak?
 
i push the river all day long. what he got that beats you? 910 is about the only possibility as set normally try to get in all the money especially with the ace out there...

insertnickname 11-24-2007 08:30 PM

Re: NL50, is this rivercall weak?
 
Why did you bet so little on the turn?
I would bet more here. And then bet the river and just call his minraise.

If you're scared that he has made his straight, and that's why you bet just a bit more than 1/2 potsize, then just c/c the river.

His range and minraising range here is huge imo. He could have a set, straight or just hit his two pair on the river. Any two pair other then A2 he would have raised earlier.
So with that range given, you have 46% equity.


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