Re: Two hands where i fold like a girl against Annette in the 109r
 

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2nd i like... 1st is iffy but it's a tough spot. it might be somewhat results oriented or seem that way, but i often just go in c/c mode from square one vs someone so aggro OOP. it disguises the strength of your hand a ton and commits fewer chips to the pot on a gross board

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get off my strategy thanks.

Re: Two hands where i fold like a girl against Annette in the 109r
 

I think check calling in #1 is good. As played I fold.
#2 I think is fine.

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2nd i like... 1st is iffy but it's a tough spot. it might be somewhat results oriented or seem that way, but i often just go in c/c mode from square one vs someone so aggro OOP. it disguises the strength of your hand a ton and commits fewer chips to the pot on a gross board

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get off my strategy thanks.

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LOL at your strategy, I'm a check/calling machine!

Re: Two hands where i fold like a girl against Annette in the 109r
 

psh I've used it more then anyone so it's mine by pure numbers.

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I would like to hear how people justify the second fold. I am a little indifferent about the second fold, I don't hate it necessarily but I am not a big fan of it. After backing out of the first had to so many draws I find it difficult to lay down the 99 when she can have a such a large range of hands that doesn't beat you. I think that the level of respect for her is to great after you folded hand #1. Let me know what people think because I would like to learn the justification of folding #2!

Re: Two hands where i fold like a girl against Annette in the 109r
 

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psh I've used it more then anyone so it's mine by pure numbers.

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Okay break out your PT database and we'll look at % of times we've done it out of our overall hands, I bet I win, I'm WAYYYY more of a station than you [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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you may be a higher % but since I prob played like 20x more tourney hands I would win by shear volume

LDO as schaefer would say

Re: Two hands where i fold like a girl against Annette in the 109r
 

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it disguises the strength of your hand a ton

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does it?

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it disguises the strength of your hand a ton

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Yes because we're checking back tons of made hands as well (at least, I am)

This is obviously opponent and somewhat board dependent, but on monotone flops I generally will check behind things like a pair here as well as some stronger holdings like a pair+ or maybe OESD+FD something that I'm not exactly thrilled when I get shoved over.

Betting hands things like pure air (because folding to a shove is fine and if he calls shutting down is easy), sets because I want to get it in with those, etc.


A good opponent might be able to narrow my range for checking behind here to things like pair, but if I'm also checking back things like made flushes or w/e then he's in for a world of hurt assuming I'm only checking back a Ten, so yes, it disguises our hand.