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ImsaKidd 11-21-2007 06:37 PM

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I was thinking same as Laetus. He might have some worse draws. Problem is will he raise with those on this flop or only call?

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It's a good board to CB for you, so in his eyes a raise has it merits. And he has not to raise a worse draw very often to make a push decent. He can also have air in this spot sometimes.

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How much does having a 3rd player in the pot affect his air %?

Laetus 11-21-2007 06:43 PM

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I was thinking same as Laetus. He might have some worse draws. Problem is will he raise with those on this flop or only call?

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It's a good board to CB for you, so in his eyes a raise has it merits. And he has not to raise a worse draw very often to make a push decent. He can also have air in this spot sometimes.

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How much does having a 3rd player in the pot affect his air %?

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Very tough to say. Depends on how he views you and how the third guy is playing. But it decreases pretty much for sure. But my point was that there is some % of air is his range, which makes our push more +EV.

mustmuck 11-21-2007 06:51 PM

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I get it in, because our equity is probably okay and it always good to let people now that you shove with draws.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.136% 40.20% 07.94% 28655 5656.50 { KJs }
Hand 1: 51.864% 43.93% 07.94% 31312 5656.50 { TT, 77, KJs, QTs, J9s, 98s

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I think the draw to made hand ratio is going to be off in this sim.

Tumez 11-21-2007 06:53 PM

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there's no reason to put J9s or 98s in that range because he'll never call an all-in with those hands

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Really? He is getting 1 to 2.1, so he almost has the odds. And I seriously doupt he is raise-folding this flop.

NicholasJ 11-21-2007 06:53 PM

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There is definitely no guarantee we get paid when we hit. Pushing gets us paid with our sets and otherwise monstrous hands later on. If we call what do we do to a large turn bet? Push it.

3rd player in the pot whom we have position on makes it look like more of a call.

Laetus 11-21-2007 06:57 PM

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there's no reason to put J9s or 98s in that range because he'll never call an all-in with those hands

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Really? He is getting 1 to 2.1, so he almost has the odds. And I seriously doupt he is raise-folding this flop.

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Ya, now way he's raise/folding for sure.

samp15555 11-21-2007 07:31 PM

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i would call your sure


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