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registrar 11-21-2007 09:48 AM

Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader
 
Stacks are such that he can conceivably three-bet/fold if we make it 5k and so I really wouldn't want to raise fold anything relatively strong here and I think raise-calling OOP is madness.

As it's live and the guy will have had position on me for some time, I think more or less any line could be OK, depending on our BvB history and my image (particularly whether he has reason to think that I'm worried about the bubble)

LuckyLloyd 11-21-2007 10:25 AM

Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader
 
Yeah, calling seems good. I'd call a lot of Ax hands here also.

betgo 11-21-2007 11:15 AM

Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader
 
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Yeah, calling seems good. I'd call a lot of Ax hands here also.

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I like a complete, but I would probably open overbet push Ax, as it is cEV+ with Ax and villain is the chip leader. With Ax, you could also raise call if villain is aggressive.

whynot? 11-21-2007 11:31 AM

Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader
 
this is just an awkward stack size

too big to jam

making 2.5-3 times just opens you up for him to come over the top

i just flat this and play aggressive on the flop -

LuckyLloyd 11-21-2007 12:21 PM

Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader
 
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Yeah, calling seems good. I'd call a lot of Ax hands here also.

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I like a complete, but I would probably open overbet push Ax, as it is cEV+ with Ax and villain is the chip leader. With Ax, you could also raise call if villain is aggressive.

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cEV+ may not neccesarily equal $EV+ in this situation though given that we are on a pay bubble. I'm no expert on such matters though and we would need all stacks and the details of each paying position to properly work it out.

Stoneii 11-21-2007 12:24 PM

Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader
 
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i just flat this and play aggressive on the flop -

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What's yer line if he preflop raises then - complete/fold?

registrar 11-21-2007 12:28 PM

Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader
 
We're ITM and the structure is really steep is what we know. 5th is $750, 2ns $3800, 1st is $6500.

betgo 11-21-2007 12:42 PM

Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader
 
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Yeah, calling seems good. I'd call a lot of Ax hands here also.

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I like a complete, but I would probably open overbet push Ax, as it is cEV+ with Ax and villain is the chip leader. With Ax, you could also raise call if villain is aggressive.

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cEV+ may not neccesarily equal $EV+ in this situation though given that we are on a pay bubble. I'm no expert on such matters though and we would need all stacks and the details of each paying position to properly work it out.

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You are right. With final table payouts, there is more reason to limp and maybe keep the pot small.

Mench 11-21-2007 02:54 PM

Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader
 
i really dont think people resteal live in BvB situations as much as we would like to think. Live players are bad and passive for the most part. I probably make it 3bb and play from there.

NYWalker 11-21-2007 03:19 PM

Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader
 
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Live players are bad and passive for the most part, especially for a tight, solid villain. I probably make it 3bb and play from there.

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