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spivey 11-20-2007 07:27 PM

Re: 2 overs + FD in position 3 way
 
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I should stop posting at work. Raise less on the flop if you're going to raise. Since he only has $33 left, I guess you can shove.

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its psr. i do want FE here.

but with the cold call it makes it tough, is he ever folding on the turn? should i take the free card then fold the river getting 6 to 1? i mean 6:1 isnt gold but i do beat draws.

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Yeah, but it leads to a really awkward turn spot. I think that $45 does the same as $60.

early325 11-20-2007 08:08 PM

Re: 2 overs + FD in position 3 way
 
yeah there isn't really a cutoff hand that will call a raise to $40 on the flop but fold to $60 ... meh, you're getting looked up by any pair, so i'd probably check the turn

the machine 11-20-2007 11:50 PM

Re: 2 overs + FD in position 3 way
 
ok so results had me shocked.

he tanks, then called with AA. i guess his play was xpertz

Noam Chomsky 11-21-2007 12:22 AM

Re: 2 overs + FD in position 3 way
 
I'm much more inclined to squeeze the flop from oop and smooth call in position here.

If I did raise it would be more like 40/45 though. 60 is just ridiculous.

Given your flop play the turn plays itself obv.

bilbo-san 11-21-2007 12:31 AM

Re: 2 overs + FD in position 3 way
 
Jesus check back the turn. You can't possibly think you are ever good her and wtf is he ever folding!?

Just check and fold to a river bet unless you hit an out.

Noam Chomsky 11-21-2007 12:34 AM

Re: 2 overs + FD in position 3 way
 
yeah, right after I posted I realized, why not just save the extra 60 here.

the machine 11-21-2007 12:39 AM

Re: 2 overs + FD in position 3 way
 
he only has 33 left. not 60.

and my flop bet is pot, its not a big overbet,

Noam Chomsky 11-21-2007 12:43 AM

Re: 2 overs + FD in position 3 way
 
ok, great flop bet then, leaving him with 33 worked out perfectly giving him 6-1 on the turn.

the machine 11-21-2007 12:48 AM

Re: 2 overs + FD in position 3 way
 
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ok, great flop bet then, leaving him with 33 worked out perfectly giving him 6-1 on the turn.

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fwiw i expected to take this down 85% of the time here or it goes AI on the flop. given his stack im not expecting to see a turn i have to bet or check.

Noam Chomsky 11-21-2007 12:53 AM

Re: 2 overs + FD in position 3 way
 
if you raised to an amount that was more appropriate for stack sizes would you expect to take it down a lot less?

With your stack, you raise to 40 and you set up a pot sized turn shove, it's a line much more consistent with a made hand rather than a draw trying to buy odds to get it in imo.


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