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LucidDream 11-20-2007 02:05 PM

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 
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min raise leaves villain room to make a mistake.

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It also leaves room for hero to make mistake on villain's push.

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what mistake is that in comparison to just shoving it in on the flop?

Knock*u*down 11-20-2007 02:07 PM

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 
Miniraise on this drawy board is crap imho. i like it if the board is dry. The real question is how much will he second barrel you with air or when scare hits. Since his 3betting raise is wide u don't even know which cards to dodge so i would just stick it in , if you are behind you most likely have 5 outs which isn't horrible at all.

Renton 11-20-2007 02:29 PM

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 
so lucid, you are arguing that theres more value in raising to induce than there is folding equity against hansd like 8x/99/TT if we make a committing raise?

LucidDream 11-20-2007 02:34 PM

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 
based on OPs read that he is extremely aggro, I....

1) am not going to give him credit for folding any hand that beats us only 100bb deep.

2) think an extremely aggro person won't be able to resist pushing here w/ AK/AQ/KQ at least some of the time.

plus we most likely always have 5 outs. i don't min raise in this spot 100% vs everyone but vs this type of player i think it's best in comparison to shoving. calling could be OK too.

coldi 11-20-2007 04:28 PM

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 
Does anybody except me folds this preflop?? if he 3bets alot there are tons of better spots to call him IP

carol-ann 11-21-2007 09:15 AM

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 
Is he ever calling the minraising with say, GS+overs?

The other problem with minraising is that he will shove some FD+over combos which we are flopping against and would like to just fold out using a shove (although he will rarely fold them even if shoved upon).

Otherwise I like minraising to incite shoves from overcards... only question - what else are you minraising with?

luegofuego 11-21-2007 09:50 AM

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 
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min raise leaves villain room to make a mistake.

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hahahahahahahahaha

*FamilyGuyFan* 11-21-2007 11:21 AM

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 
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Does anybody except me folds this preflop?? if he 3bets alot there are tons of better spots to call him IP

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+1

BalugaWhale 11-21-2007 12:10 PM

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 
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min raise leaves villain room to make a mistake.

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hahahahahahahahaha

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