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bozlax 11-19-2007 06:37 PM

Re: River Line>??????????
 
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really raise fold river, thats the line?
I thought maybe he has flush, but you dont think any value is missed by not getting 55 or 97 to pay 3 bets, is it always a raise fold. Obv raise call situation but raise fold not so obv I think?
IDK

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Listen, you clown....

It's raise/fold based on your read. You said he's a calling station. Does a calling station 3bet a flush/straight river with bottom set? Does he 3bet a flush/straight river with the second-nut straight?

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villain is calling station...trust me.

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Okey. If you can't fold to the 3bet, just call, trust me.

Edited for some creative editing in the second quote.

Mr.Busto 11-19-2007 06:38 PM

Re: River Line>??????????
 
SO WHICH LINE IS LIKED BY MOST
[ ] RAISE/FOLD
[ ] RAISE/CALL
[ ] CALL

bellatrix 11-19-2007 07:14 PM

Re: River Line>??????????
 
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[x] CALL

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But, raise/fold is also viable. I'm naturally curious and for me the read is more important than the ~0.01BB I get by raise/folding.

BTW, I lol'ed a bit at your reads.
Iso-raising calling station(s) with T9s...

Bulletproof Monk 11-19-2007 07:16 PM

Re: River Line>??????????
 
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It's raise/fold based on your read. You said he's a calling station. Does a calling station 3bet a flush/straight river with bottom set? Does he 3bet a flush/straight river with the second-nut straight?

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the point of contention is how much the river card has adjusted your equity against his range based on his actions.

i believe we do not have the equity to raise here

bozlax 11-19-2007 07:46 PM

Re: River Line>??????????
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
It's raise/fold based on your read. You said he's a calling station. Does a calling station 3bet a flush/straight river with bottom set? Does he 3bet a flush/straight river with the second-nut straight?

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the point of contention is how much the river card has adjusted your equity against his range based on his actions.

i believe we do not have the equity to raise here

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I should have clarified...I agree we don't have the equity to raise. I was merely responding to Busto's apparent disputation of Aaron's suggestion that he has to fold to a 3bet if he raises. (Based on the way this thread went, I'm wagering that Busto raised the river, called a 3-bet and was shown a set of somethings or the smaller straight.)

This is a flush for Villan 100% of the time, maybe more.

Mr.Busto 11-19-2007 07:58 PM

Re: River Line>??????????
 
ty bozlax
was shown flush by villain
he had 106hh

bozlax 11-19-2007 08:17 PM

Re: River Line>??????????
 
[ QUOTE ]
ty bozlax
was shown flush by villain
he had 106hh

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You raise/called?

Mr.Busto 11-19-2007 08:43 PM

Re: River Line>??????????
 
yes

neurotiq 11-19-2007 09:04 PM

Re: River Line>??????????
 
I probably just call...

Xylocain 11-19-2007 09:14 PM

Re: River Line>??????????
 
Im not raising an UTG limper with 9T unless he is very weak.

I wish I could say that I would just call the river -- but it would be a lie so I dont -- but I wish it wouldnt be.


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