Re: extraction river plan.
 

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It would have been easier to get it all in on the river if we bet more on the flop.

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ORLY?

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I think so (although constructive criticism is welcome):

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $44.80
Hero (BTN): $63.73
SB: $44.59
BB: $120.28
UTG: $94.60
MP: $51.99

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4.5

Turn: ($15.00) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, BB calls $14

River: ($43) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero has ~43 left behind and just needs a pot-size bet to get it all-in</font>

Re: extraction river plan.
 

Valueshove imo.

Re: extraction river plan.
 

hmmmm....

whitewolf: thanks for the explanation but I did know that already hence the - flop bet is small cos I'm hoping to string both villains along OR get a raise out of aggro SB. - part of my OP.

FWIW I "thought" a few secs value shoved and villain time out folded. o well.

Re: extraction river plan.
 

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I'd target his top pair hands for a call here. Since he seems loose, a push has a good chance of being called - it's only a moderate overbet of the pot.

It would have been easier to get it all in on the river if we bet more on the flop.

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In general, yes, but his reasoning for betting smaller is fine. He is more likely to get a call &amp; overcall or a raise because of the "weak" bet. Once one player got out and the other just called him, he could abandon this and bet larger on the turn and river.

I don't think the difference is substantial enough to heavily affect the outcome here. Valueshove indeed.

Re: extraction river plan.
 

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hmmmm....

whitewolf: thanks for the explanation but I did know that already hence the - flop bet is small cos I'm hoping to string both villains along OR get a raise out of aggro SB. - part of my OP.


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Ah, I see... should have known I was being leveled!