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Rob121 11-19-2007 01:42 AM

Re: Flopped NFD + weak straight draw 3-way
 
hes got a nfd with a gutshot to a nut straight.
i would assume your losing alot of value from worse flushes by check folding your nut flush draws out of position.

gordo16 11-19-2007 02:44 AM

Re: Flopped NFD + weak straight draw 3-way
 
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AT98 pot pot all day
but with naked draws check/call

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Check/call with a naked NFD? Really? I'd be way more inclined to check/fold. Especially 5-way. Is this a leak?

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uhhh yes, check/folding NFDs 5-handed is pretty obviously a leak...

sondring 11-19-2007 01:11 PM

Re: Flopped NFD + weak straight draw 3-way
 
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uhhh yes, check/folding NFDs 5-handed is pretty obviously a leak...

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In this situation say hero checks the flop and whoever is last to act pots it. Can hero call 20bb w/ a naked NFD (let's assume he doesn't have the gutter) with 3 other people left to act in the hand?

I just hate check/calling with my draws since it's so obvious when we hit, and as a result rarely get paid off. I'll bet my draws against 1-2 players when OOP and more when IP all day long.

plzbenice 11-19-2007 09:12 PM

Re: Flopped NFD + weak straight draw 3-way
 
edited

blopp 11-20-2007 10:10 AM

Re: Flopped NFD + weak straight draw 3-way
 
I like all lines that dont involve folding flop, and since our outs often will make villians next best hand. (booth str8 and flush) c/r lp bet is bad. This is a spot we prefer the pot to be multiway so we dont get it in vs sets HU.

Weakleading is somewhat sexy, even we build pot oop.

Hattifnatt 11-20-2007 10:41 AM

Re: Flopped NFD + weak straight draw 3-way
 
looks good too me.

fwiw I would prefer having a 9 to have TP instead of the 8 to the gutshot.

Hopscotch 11-20-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Flopped NFD + weak straight draw 3-way
 
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uhhh yes, check/folding NFDs 5-handed is pretty obviously a leak...

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In this situation say hero checks the flop and whoever is last to act pots it. Can hero call 20bb w/ a naked NFD (let's assume he doesn't have the gutter) with 3 other people left to act in the hand?

I just hate check/calling with my draws since it's so obvious when we hit, and as a result rarely get paid off. I'll bet my draws against 1-2 players when OOP and more when IP all day long.

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its even better because people are very very bad at omaha and will call with 2nd nut flush draw.


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