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Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.

thanks all for your opinions, but to conclude.

Hero raises to $40, UTG calls $9.86 (All-In), SB raises to $169.28 (All-In), Hero calls $64.86 (All-In).

Turn: ($302.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 3 all-in)
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River: ($302.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $302.50

Results in white below: 
SB has 8c 6c (flush, queen high).
Hero has Jd Ac (one pair, tens).
UTG doesn't show. (he had Kh8h)
Outcome: SB wins $302.50. 

TBH I felt really bad after this hand. I felt folding preflop was the best choice in retrospect, though I needed other opinions to avoid knee-jerking myself into changing around my game.

How do you guys usually deal with villains with SB'S stats ?

When I said he was tough - I meant he multi-tables, and is ALWAYS deep. He doesnt seem to stack off light, at least when i've run into him and seems to float just the right amount.

/edit word fixing.

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.

Bah, I missed how deep we were here first time. Apologies. I think that makes a shove far less prudent tbh as the dead money is less significant in the EV calculation (even allowing that our FE probably goes up some when we shove).

Getting owned by a good LAG like this is horrible. But I cannot work out a remedy here: a smaller flop raise, a fold and a shove all seem questionable this deep. I wonder if a call mightn't be ok? Not sure if that's results-orientated though.

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.

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Getting owned by a good LAG like this is horrible.

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I don't think a good LAG is cold-calling here OOP w/86s not knowing what the other deepstack will do. Would a good LAG want to play a drawing hand like this OOP? Granted they are deep,but I'm not sure the implied odds make up for his 10bb preflop call when he has to play a multi-way 3bet pot OOP. He is c/f almost all flops.