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FiSheYe 11-16-2007 07:11 PM

Re: Live hand, tricky river.
 
Uh tough spot I think he might have QQ, KK, AA, AK, KQ or K4 but really stinks rodden like JsTs I snap fold there.

Serioulsy whats the point of this thread? If you have a strong read he has a better boat you can call, otherwise this is a nobrainer shove.

TheWorstPlayer 11-16-2007 07:21 PM

Re: Live hand, tricky river.
 
push

gordongecko 11-16-2007 07:35 PM

Re: Live hand, tricky river.
 
My line was flush at first, but he was just to confident with his bet even though the board paired. If this were any other guy I would consider just a call, or if the stacks were a littler deeper. I put any spades, and KQ in his range, given pre flop action. I figured the flush hitting was worth the risk of getting run over by a bigger boat, but I had a terrible feeling shoving. He insta calls and tables KQ for the bigger boat. I really put him on KQ, but I dont think I can get away from my hand here with the spade hitting. Would just a call be out of line here given my line on villain? Or does all the spade hands he could play the same way give me enough value to shove?

DaCooler 11-16-2007 08:10 PM

Re: Live hand, tricky river.
 
I dont know about other but i HATE your flop smooth call here.. theres a few draws out there in a 3 way pot . Why are you calling?

rewt75 11-16-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Live hand, tricky river.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Would just a call be out of line here given my line on villain?

[/ QUOTE ]

Mixed emotions, pal. Like Sir Larry Wildman going over a cliff in my new Maserati.

big_al 11-16-2007 11:26 PM

Re: Live hand, tricky river.
 
why was J10 such a big concern on the turn?

DLizzle 11-16-2007 11:40 PM

Re: Live hand, tricky river.
 
raise flop, if not then raise turn, if not then raise river

captainwacky 11-17-2007 02:31 AM

Re: Live hand, tricky river.
 
I don't think calling would be the end of the world... but I probably would push unless I got one of those weird feelings.... a lot of it would be how he bet, etc.

gordongecko 11-17-2007 03:02 AM

Re: Live hand, tricky river.
 
Yeah if this were online with no line on the player I would have insta shoved. This guy loves winning small pots, usually the stack he has in front of him represents his net worth, so it was just a weird live tell. I shoved under the assumption that he has j10/flush. Raising the flop may have got me a small pot, but given I doubt he was folding that turn.
Again, as I said in the first post, I think my flop play was atrocious here, but I was hoping SB would make a play at it.

hungryhippo604 11-18-2007 07:35 AM

Re: Live hand, tricky river.
 
easy shove. not much more to lose if hes got you beat, get your value. KQ only hand you are really worried about. Fist pump when he calls and shows you flush.


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