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Bikini Wax 11-16-2007 03:56 AM

Re: stupid spot with QQ
 
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4bet pre

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d2themfi 11-16-2007 04:12 AM

Re: stupid spot with QQ
 
Really dont like 4bet pre, and if I was playing my best Id just fold the flop the first chance i get

CAMEL1111 11-16-2007 04:14 AM

Re: stupid spot with QQ
 
You have to call here.

tannenj 11-16-2007 03:07 PM

Re: stupid spot with QQ
 
can the 4bettors elaborate? is this to isolate the fish? if the tag jams we have to call, right?

philipsaurus 11-16-2007 03:13 PM

Re: stupid spot with QQ
 
i dont like 4betting here.

id call, then fold to nit shove. those kinds of guys wont be shoving AK there with the sb in there (even though he has decent equity even if fish has a pair). it would suck if he had KQ and you folded, but not all nits even 3ball KQ pf.

Triumph36 11-16-2007 03:19 PM

Re: stupid spot with QQ
 
i like a 4 bet pre. there's a ton of dead money in the pot, and you are probably ahead of the fish.

as played call/fold. you are in a [censored] spot here nontheless - how do you expect to profit significantly from this hand, as played? nittag isn't c-betting without a hand, so most times you are giving 4 free cards to 2 players to beat you. GL.

imozyslow 11-16-2007 03:29 PM

Re: stupid spot with QQ
 
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i like a 4 bet pre. there's a ton of dead money in the pot, and you are probably ahead of the fish.

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illuminati 11-16-2007 03:37 PM

Re: stupid spot with QQ
 
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You have to call here.

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lol why

jlocdog 11-16-2007 03:49 PM

Re: stupid spot with QQ
 
illuminati- substitute your name for xtwalkers...

Xtwalker- A SB fish can have as little as Jx here fwiw (with x usually being T+) or a straight draw. No way is a nitty TAG raising you without the goods. Call/fold is the line.

Colombo 11-16-2007 03:51 PM

Re: stupid spot with QQ
 
I think you should 4bet this with like......99


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