Re: ATo in BB with BTN limp and SB complete
 

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Shove seems somehow stupid IMO like LevAA also pointed out the pot is just 39k

i would like a raise but not 36k tho

id raise like 50kish
fold to a shove
and make a large c-bet on any face card flop
lets say only button calls
pot will be 140k C-bet 90k and villian will have to decide if he wants to trow in his stack


Edit: i agree if youre gonna call a shove
just shove it in youreself

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But also, if you're going to lead just about any flop, why not just ship it in yourself?

Re: ATo in BB with BTN limp and SB complete
 

in case villian has a PP you have way more FE on a overcarded flop then making a Sqeeuze play PreFlop

Re: ATo in BB with BTN limp and SB complete
 

That's assuming that Villain is bad enough to limp/call PF, and then fold the flop

Re: ATo in BB with BTN limp and SB complete
 

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That's assuming that Villain is bad enough to limp/call PF, and then fold the flop

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I assume anyone who open limps a pot is bad.

Re: ATo in BB with BTN limp and SB complete
 

oh, and if it matters at all, we're approaching around the FT bubble

Re: ATo in BB with BTN limp and SB complete
 

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That's assuming that Villain is bad enough to limp/call PF, and then fold the flop

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I assume anyone who open limps a pot is bad.

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Obv. But a player bad enough to limp/call half his stack PF only to fold the flop is a different animal

Re: ATo in BB with BTN limp and SB complete
 

either way the button is bad for not raising here PF
i dont know what image villian or hero has
if hes limping AJs+ hes gonna call that PF shove
and prob will do same with PP
so why not play post flop ?
also the raise to 50kish PF is gonna look stronger then the sqeeuze IMO

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That's assuming that Villain is bad enough to limp/call PF, and then fold the flop

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I assume anyone who open limps a pot is bad.

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Re: ATo in BB with BTN limp and SB complete
 

The only way there's really any postflop play is if I check, IMO. Because if I raise to 50K and Villain calls, he is committed to the hand.

Re: ATo in BB with BTN limp and SB complete
 

button is weak here so much and the sb's basically irrelevant. i think your range should be significantly wider than AT.

if you want to raise an amount that isn't a shove you should go and go, make it about 70000 and push any flop.