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anuj 11-13-2007 09:53 AM

Re: NL400 Deep -- AA Tought Spot or Not?
 
I didn't exactly explain why I made such a large raise. I don't routinely make large 3-bets like this, but as mentioned, the button has lost 300BB in the last 30 hands and wants to get "even" quickly. If this were against complete of non-tilted players, I would just mash pot and add a couple bucks. How does that sound for a default line?

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srsly i think preflop is fine if it was done for the sole reason that button would call this raise with a wide range.

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This was my reasoning for the large raise.

MrHoobris 11-13-2007 10:30 AM

Re: NL400 Deep -- AA Tought Spot or Not?
 
Easy bet/call AI. When you put in close to 1/5 of effective stacks PF with AA against somebody who is tilted and calling light, you should be willing to get it in on every flop and be happy to do so. Since you gave him such bad implied odds through your big reraise, he can never set/2pair-mine profitably. By the time you cbet the flop (which is a must since you cannot check/fold, not that you were going to do that) there's way too much money in the pot to ever consider folding if he raises. It isn't a stretch to say you should get it in on any flop vs any player if you get that high an amount of effective stacks in PF with AA.

It becomes a sick spot if you bet 175, he calls, and a T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] rolls off on the turn. In this particular instance I'd probably check/fold.

Gimli_ 11-13-2007 10:41 AM

Re: NL400 Deep -- AA Tought Spot or Not?
 
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It becomes a sick spot if you bet 175, he calls, and a T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] rolls off on the turn. In this particular instance I'd probably check/fold.

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Just bet all-in on any turn.

docnuclear 11-13-2007 10:43 AM

Re: NL400 Deep -- AA Tought Spot or Not?
 
yeah just shove any turn, you cannot ch fold anyway

traz 11-13-2007 12:09 PM

Re: NL400 Deep -- AA Tought Spot or Not?
 
I'm not sure what the problem is, this is a standard bet/stack-off for me

anuj 11-13-2007 07:10 PM

Re: NL400 Deep -- AA Tought Spot or Not?
 
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I'm not sure what the problem is, this is a standard bet/stack-off for me

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There isn't a problem, really. I don't play a lot of NL and wanted to make sure getting in it on the flop was standard given the villain's range and how drawy the flop looks.

Anyway, results:

I didn't like it but I bet $200 planning to call an AI. The villain moved AI, I insta-called, and to my delight showed red tens. Turn a Q-ball and I miss my two outs on the river.

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>pokenum -h as ad - th td -- 8d jh 9h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 8d Jh 9h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ad 572 57.78 402 40.61 16 1.62 0.586
Td Th 402 40.61 572 57.78 16 1.62 0.414</pre><hr />

OneTimeAce 11-13-2007 08:48 PM

Re: NL400 Deep -- AA Tought Spot or Not?
 
Wait, most of you are saying its a flop to go broke with. And some say shove turn. What if its like a 10 heart, or a facecard heart.

I think this flop sucks. Id have to say villans range must be some suited conn.


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