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Smart Money 11-13-2007 01:58 AM

Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment
 
Well, there's no shame in limping once in a while. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

From memory, very few (if any) of the most profitable players have such a high PFR% (at least at $1/$2- I'm not so familiar with $2/$4.)

(Also, most of the players that do have a high PFR% are losing players.)

Obviously there is no single optimum VP$IP/PFR% combination but I'd certainly recommend experimenting with closer to a single digit PFR%.

Another point, from a multi-tabling perspective, is that there's clearly an inverse-correlation between a player's PFR% and the focus they can afford each table. In other words the greater the number of hands you're raising pre-flop, the greater your involvement in each of those individual pots- resulting in less attention for your other tables.


How many tables do you play?

TheProdigy 11-13-2007 02:03 AM

Re: players whose game i respect, please read and comment
 
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do I count?

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Eternal 11-13-2007 02:35 AM

Re: players whose game i respect, please read and comment
 
Hey Renton,

You try out Poker EV?

Eternal 11-13-2007 02:36 AM

Re: players whose game i respect, please read and comment
 
I swear these stats are just like mine lol

wufwugy 11-13-2007 02:37 AM

Re: players whose game i respect, please read and comment
 
When determining how you're running, PokerEV is worthless.

Eternal 11-13-2007 02:40 AM

Re: players whose game i respect, please read and comment
 
Poker EV needs to be taken as a grain of salt, but it'll help give u an idea if you're leaking

Split Suit 11-13-2007 02:48 AM

Re: players whose game i respect, please read and comment
 
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Poker EV needs to be taken as a grain of salt, but it'll help give u an idea if you're leaking

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not rly. u can get set<set, being playin well against ranges, and itll tell u that u shud just quit poker all together

Eternal 11-13-2007 02:53 AM

Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment
 
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From memory, very few (if any) of the most profitable players have such a high PFR% (at least at $1/$2- I'm not so familiar with $2/$4.)

(Also, most of the players that do have a high PFR% are losing players.)



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Sorry but I totally disagree with this.

Chargers In 07 11-13-2007 02:57 AM

Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment
 
Renton, didn't you make a post about how everytime you got over 15% vpip you started spewing alot? Maybe tone down a bit?

Awesemo 11-13-2007 03:35 AM

Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment
 
I'm kinda skeptical that raising 9-10% from ep is profitable. That means you are going to be playing many marginal hands out of position.


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