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1968 11-12-2007 11:23 PM

Re: 100NL JJ facing a checkraise preflop
 
but he had AA didnt he [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Llama88 11-13-2007 12:19 AM

Re: 100NL JJ facing a checkraise preflop
 
i like the reraise, because i hate playing for set value here. I would fold here, a 13/11 can very easily have a hand like QQ+ AQ+

TheDivineRod 11-13-2007 12:27 AM

Re: 100NL JJ facing a checkraise preflop
 
I think this is usually a snap call, ppl push all kinds of random crap if they think you're squeezing.

ikestoys 11-13-2007 12:33 AM

Re: 100NL JJ facing a checkraise preflop
 
snap call.... lets read the hand ppl.

john voight 11-13-2007 04:42 AM

Re: 100NL JJ facing a checkraise preflop
 
what would a 13/11 smooth call a 30/22 OOP with?

77+
AJ+
a couple random connectors that look sexy one in a while

I mean wouldnt a nit repop w/ the hand he is trying to represent (like JJ+, AK) instead of call/reraise?

IMO from a tight player, I could only expect to see AK, AA, KK. AA, KK would piss me off but I could see a nit trapping PF vs an aggressive player.

Tell me if I'm off base here,,.

martijn 11-13-2007 05:05 AM

Re: 100NL JJ facing a checkraise preflop
 
what?call call call

he has a lower pocketpair or AK here about always.


given that you have a agressive immage makes it even easyer.

tubasteve 11-13-2007 05:16 AM

Re: 100NL JJ facing a checkraise preflop
 
yeah, im putting him on about AK, 99, TT, and maybe like 1 combo each of QQ/KK/AA

tubasteve 11-13-2007 05:16 AM

Re: 100NL JJ facing a checkraise preflop
 
oh and i guess he could have the other JJ

djshawk 11-13-2007 05:26 AM

Re: 100NL JJ facing a checkraise preflop
 
I think AA/KK are well within his range here. I play nitty and if I get a raise from a super aggressive player who cbets every flop I'll often smooth call AA/KK there, looking to CR flop. These players will almost always fold to a 3bet pre (as happened here) but once you get to the flop they don't know how to slow down and will pay off. Once the 3 bet comes in though there's enough in the pot to shove.

I'm not saying he does have AA/KK but that it's definitely well within his range given the circumstances.

As played I'd probably fold (like I said - I'm a nit!)

tubasteve 11-13-2007 05:39 AM

Re: 100NL JJ facing a checkraise preflop
 


Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.015% 55.16% 02.85% 17001497 879465.00 { JcJd }
Hand 1: 41.985% 39.13% 02.85% 12061045 879465.00 { AhAs, KcKd, QcQh, JhJs, TcTs, TdTs, ThTs, 9c9s, 9d9s, 9h9s, AcKc, AdKd, AdKc, AhKc, AhKd, AsKc, AsKd, AsKh }



heres my estimate of his range and our equity. im assuming he is doing this about half the time he has 99-TT or AKo/AKs, and is doing it with 1 combo each of JJ+


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