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cbboy 11-11-2007 05:40 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
Axs has a lot of value even UTG. I think there was a big thread on this earlier. Anyone have a link?

Briman51 11-11-2007 05:57 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
In a six handed game I would limp with Axs.

The flop play here is horrible. I'm not sure I'd even lead out in this position, but the push is where my main problem is:

After his reraise you know you're behind. He either has a two pair, straight or a set - possibly an A with a higher kicker but I doubt it. This means he's calling your push with almost always except with only a pair of Aces. Therefore, you're better off taking a card and seeing if you hit one of your outs (flush).

Basically the value in reraise with a flush draw is if it can flod out some of their range, which your reraise can't.

MatthewRyan 11-11-2007 06:16 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
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I think opening Axs utg is +ev, and the flop is played fine

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A10s and lower is a dog to 20 VPIP and you are OOP.

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?? what does that have to do with anything

ArturiusX 11-11-2007 06:19 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
Opening here depends on how likely you are to get repopped. In an agro game I consider folding unless I'm prepared to 3bet. In a passivish game opening with Axs is fine.

highstakesfish 11-11-2007 06:19 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
i need 42 % equity against him if i push and have no foldequity and his range is AQo, AQs , KJs , TT, ATs i have 35 %. so i dont like pushing vs a nit. i didnt thought abotu it in the hand so call flop and fold ui turn is a good play i think. improved is here only hitting the flush. right??

what about folding?

Darkfolder 11-11-2007 07:09 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
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In a six handed game I would limp with Axs.

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Expert

Briman51 11-11-2007 09:21 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
What's wrong with limping UTG with Axs in a 6 max game?

Borsig 11-11-2007 10:47 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
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What's wrong with limping UTG with Axs in a 6 max game?

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You shouldn't open limp any hand at all in a 6 max game.

pokerchap 11-11-2007 11:00 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
fold PF is definitley the best play...
flop is fine.

cbboy 11-12-2007 12:43 AM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
Briman, open liming is absolutely atrocious.

pokerchap, folding PF isn't "definitely the best play..."
I think raising is best actually...


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