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MuresanForMVP 11-09-2007 06:26 PM

Re: 2007 Silver Slugger awards
 
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Doesn't look too bad, except for Hanley got jobbed.

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QFT, and I think I woulda given 3b to Braun because he had pretty much the same numbers even with 150 less ABs then Wright.

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Chipper Jones > Ryan Braun

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Chipper is killing Braun in OBP, i'll give him that.


But I'm a Ryan Braun homer cause I know his family. ROBBED!

J.R. 11-09-2007 06:27 PM

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Is this award less controversial and less based on popularity than others, like the gold gloves?

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Yes. In addition to the "less important" reason already mentioned, offensive is more easily distilled into statistical representations of value that are commonly dispersed and accepted. For example, OPS, while far from perfect, is fairly accurate and widely accepted, especially when one tries to identify a comparable defensive statistic.

Defensive measures of value are far less developed than offensive stats and also far less dispersed. Even the more advanced defensive measures sometimes substantially disagree, ala andruw jones, carl crawford, etc. (mostly because of the surprising large differences between the PBP data supplied by Stats and BIS).

Basically, its a lot easier to know who is good offensively than it is to know who is good defensively because of commonly available measures of value. The more asymmetrical the distribution of high quality information about a topic, the greater the divergence of opinions about the subject.

Pudge714 11-09-2007 06:29 PM

Re: 2007 Silver Slugger awards
 
Pujols> Prince
Hanley > Rollins
Miggy > Braun
Sizemore, Granderson and Ichiro are all really close.
Bonds >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>> Lee

Neuge 11-09-2007 07:16 PM

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Bonds >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>> Lee

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Not to mention Rowand and Dunn deserve it more than Lee as well.

kyleb 11-09-2007 07:21 PM

Re: 2007 Silver Slugger awards
 
WTF where is Bonds and Adam Q. Dunnington?

Victor 11-09-2007 08:37 PM

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victor martinez>posada

Rubeskies 11-09-2007 09:07 PM

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victor martinez>posada

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Um, no.

Posada: .338BA, 20 HRs, .426 OBP
V-Mart: .301BA, 25 HR, .374 OBP

Victor 11-09-2007 09:09 PM

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116 rbi vs 90

Neuge 11-09-2007 09:19 PM

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116 rbi vs 90

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73.4 vs 55.0 VORP
.322 vs .291 EqA

Posada, and it's not even close.

kyleb 11-09-2007 09:22 PM

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116 rbi vs 90

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apples vs. garbage dumps


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