Re: KK for value on the river?
 

The only question on this hand whether to bet/fold or bet/call. Personally, I am calling a raise, but I can see bet/fold being a reasonable alternative. Any line that involves checking is terrible.

Re: KK for value on the river?
 

Yes, this is a clear value bet.

Re: KK for value on the river?
 

Bet then call.. you can't bet and fold because the pot is too big and I think you will win this hand enought to make betting and calling profitable.

Re: KK for value on the river?
 

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btw your 86/0 read is basically preflop stats....some semblance of a postflop read would help here.

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Sorry, if I had a semblance I would have shared it. The guy only lasted about 15 hands so even the PFR stat is suspect though the 86% at least represents a trend.

The rest of the story:


River: (5.50 BB) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets</font> , MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

And what does MP3 muck?

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Somewhere I hear a little bubbly voice saying "...but I had a gutshot on the turn, and I had to call to see if he was bluffing."

Re: KK for value on the river?
 

vils turn and river play is fine....

Re: KK for value on the river?
 

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Somewhere I hear a little bubbly voice saying "...but I had a gutshot on the turn, and I had to call to see if he was bluffing."

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Villain has TPNK, not only gutshot.

Re: KK for value on the river?
 

Villain's postflop play is fine, given his atrocious preflop call.

Re: KK for value on the river?
 

You're right, he had the odds postflop.