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Terkman 10-31-2007 11:21 PM

Re: 50/1 flop spot
 
Who is villain? and are you a prima regular?

EnoBaLL 11-01-2007 01:38 AM

Re: 50/1 flop spot
 
all in

futuredoc85 11-01-2007 06:02 AM

Re: 50/1 flop spot
 
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jesus this is a fken [censored] spot.

i'd find a way to stack off, not sure how tho, definitely a spot where his range should be a LOT of air, which you're ahead of obv.

what about 5150 call shove?

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heh maybe a bit too much here. id rather call and stack off on the turn

ArmenH 11-01-2007 06:20 AM

Re: 50/1 flop spot
 
Player dependent obv. His range seems to be very wide. I would call since we have position and re-evaluate on turn. I would fold to a bet on turn.

BalugaWhale 11-01-2007 10:29 AM

Re: 50/1 flop spot
 
i think its close between call/call and call/fold assuming he shoves turn.

BLdSWtTRs 11-01-2007 11:06 AM

Re: 50/1 flop spot
 
reraise or call.

NLMan 11-01-2007 11:57 AM

Re: 50/1 flop spot
 
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what turn would make you fold? certainly not an a or k right?

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I am sort of a noob here.

Why isn't he likely to have A or K here? Like low suited ace (maybe A6s even? or would he just plain call A6 because it has some showdown value?), or KJs/KTs?

And why isn't he likely to have smth like QJs/QTs?

gordo16 11-01-2007 12:03 PM

Re: 50/1 flop spot
 
Brutal spot. I think I call/fold to a turn bet. I hate playing marginal big pots against players that could be steaming from the previous hand, I find it messes with my perception of their hand too much. He could very well be protecting a 6 or something stupid with his flop-raise so I think you should never really be folding flop here. Would hate to call flop and see an all in if a K hits though. Weird spot.

Greeksquared 11-01-2007 12:36 PM

Re: 50/1 flop spot
 
I don't mind a min-raise call shove. There is no way you should get away from this. He only has a Q 9% of the time randomly.

jcmoussa 11-01-2007 12:43 PM

Re: 50/1 flop spot
 
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what turn would make you fold? certainly not an a or k right?

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I am sort of a noob here.

Why isn't he likely to have A or K here? Like low suited ace (maybe A6s even? or would he just plain call A6 because it has some showdown value?), or KJs/KTs?

And why isn't he likely to have smth like QJs/QTs?

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usually when they turn an A or K they now have showdown value and no need to bluff you. they also might fear a Q


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