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Percy101 10-30-2007 01:19 PM

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 
not cbetting is fine given hero's read on villain IMO.
River is a call, I think. It is doubtful that an agro opponent will check flop with a FD, and the only conceivable overset is really only 666 which is unlikely to valueshove river anyway.

Hince 10-30-2007 01:22 PM

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 
cbetting this sucks. Just because you raise, doesn't mean you have to bet.

Fold this river. You say his range is really polarized, and I really don't think he bluffs even close to the same frequency that he plays a hand for value like this.

Unknown Soldier 10-30-2007 01:32 PM

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 
fold, it makes it easier that the river is an A. i'd usually cbet this flop. turn is an interesting street, i would 3b against some villains.

_Apollo_ 10-30-2007 01:38 PM

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 
interesting, but my plan was to make him bluf once more (this was what I believed to be most likely on the turn) and not loose 150BB if he turned a flush.
Because I figured a decent hand I beat was only a very small part of his range on the turn so no point in getting value from one.

River is ppb a fold, but a close one imo because the big stacks makes bluffing a bit more likely and I think it's a air or nuts situation [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Unknown Soldier 10-30-2007 01:47 PM

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 
yeah this deep 3b is prob bad against alot of villain actually. forgot we were 150. Although i would with alot of history because you look FOS,and with some villains they'll bet the flop with a flush draw every time.

_Apollo_ 10-30-2007 01:51 PM

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 
Isn't this a good thing in this hand? I win on the river from a bluff and loose minimal to a flush?

If his range contains lots of decent holdings I agree with 3betting (if we were 100BB) because he will look me up with some mediocre hands.

i see your point though, thanks for the comments.

HoldEmNewby 10-30-2007 01:52 PM

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 
preflop is fine

flop is fine

turn - i'm c/c like you to keep the pot small and to allow him to keep bluffing
* I am being cautious here as I think he would have bet the flop with any made hand or total bluff, but would check behind on the flop with a draw. When he raises me on the turn that tells me either the 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] helped him or he is on a total bluff.

river i think is a fold. Our hand either looks like a draw on the turn or we're slowplaying. If we were on a draw an Ace hits a decent portion of our range, and if we were slowplaying villain has to know he is getting stacked. He isn't pushing here as a total bluff often.


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