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eurythmech 11-03-2007 02:54 PM

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 
Without checking SNGPT...what kind of ranges is 66 not profitable to push against?

I don't care about patience - if I see value, I grab it.

AMT 11-03-2007 02:59 PM

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 
guys this is a really easy shove if hes just limp/folding all the time, but if hes not 44 does not have enough value to play for stacks when getting limp/called wide, your stack is still in great shape and im in no hurry to flip for stacks all the time in this spot if i fear thats what happens with this guy. 66/77+ seems about right otherwise.

aghasax 11-03-2007 05:03 PM

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 
[ QUOTE ]
Without checking SNGPT...what kind of ranges is 66 not profitable to push against?

I don't care about patience - if I see value, I grab it.

[/ QUOTE ]

SNGPT won't do calculations with a limper i front.

I WIZ'ed it though, and found that if limper limps 40%, but only calls your push with 88+, AQo+, AJs+, and SB and BB calls with AQ+, 99+, it's only + 0,27 %. Widen the limpers' overcall range some, and you are quicly getting it - EV. The above ranges are pretty tight imo.

eurythmech 11-03-2007 05:03 PM

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 
aghasax: I was under the impression the 77+ talk was concering no limper.

billybeartku 11-03-2007 05:55 PM

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 
I fold pre w/o thinking twice.

drzen 11-04-2007 01:51 AM

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 
I need to start thinking twice because I have a bad habit of pushing in these spots and getting called by KT. It's a rule of poker that donkeys who call with overcards will always flop one or other against me, regardless that they were behind preflop.


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