Re: Niagara 10k: Turning TPGK into a bluff multiway for my TOURNAMENT
 

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how exactly is this a bluff even a little bit?

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yeah, I guess thats a good point, but @ the same time I was relatively sure it couldnt possibly be a value bet either.

Re: Niagara 10k: Turning TPGK into a bluff multiway for my TOURNAMENT
 

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durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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durrrrrrrrrrrr

Re: Niagara 10k: Turning TPGK into a bluff multiway for my TOURNAMENT
 

like ever1 else has said fold pre. Once we get here it seems like a easy check shove once the nit checks as the pfr. From the descriptions id say our bet is neither a bluff or a value bet, it is more for protection and to avoid giving a free(or relatively cheap) card. with the current size of the pot relative to the future bet sizes, this seems like the only available option to you.

Re: Niagara 10k: Turning TPGK into a bluff multiway for my TOURNAMENT
 

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how exactly is this a bluff even a little bit?

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yeah, I guess thats a good point, but @ the same time I was relatively sure it couldnt possibly be a value bet either.

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its either a good or bad valueshove, but deeeeeeeeeeefinitely not a bluff... as a bluff would imply >1/100 times you fold out a better hand...

Re: Niagara 10k: Turning TPGK into a bluff multiway for my TOURNAMENT
 

btw i think its fine, but i kindv like a r/r pre

edit: and folding is probly atrocius

Re: Niagara 10k: Turning TPGK into a bluff multiway for my TOURNAMENT
 

YAWN.

clay did u really post this hand?

what did u want ppl to say? ck/ min raise flop?

Re: Niagara 10k: Turning TPGK into a bluff multiway for my TOURNAMENT
 

i rly thought about folding the flop on the premise that my play isnt hugely EV and i can find a better spot w/ my image.

Re: Niagara 10k: Turning TPGK into a bluff multiway for my TOURNAMENT
 

i guess this thread is more standard than i thought

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On a board of K-X-2, Clayton Newman is all in against an opponent for his last 7,250 chips. Newman tables KJ, for top pair good kicker, but is dominated by his opponents 22. The next two cards come A3, Newman fails to improve and is eliminated.

Re: Niagara 10k: Turning TPGK into a bluff multiway for my TOURNAMENT
 

with the stacks as shallow as they are this is definitely a value shove and not a bluff, whether its a good one is a different question. u cant do much else when uve called preflop and hit this flop, fold pre tho so ur not in this situation

Re: Niagara 10k: Turning TPGK into a bluff multiway for my TOURNAMENT
 

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how exactly is this a bluff even a little bit?

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yeah, I guess thats a good point, but @ the same time I was relatively sure it couldnt possibly be a value bet either.

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So basically it's "hurrrr I have top pair ARRRRRINNNN"...