Re: Top two on a scary board vs Zeejustin in Caesar\'s 10k
 

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I like the flat call preflop with this hand. You could also reraise, but I wouldn't fold. This is live with a big ante and you have an aggressive big stack raising pretty much any two on the bubble. Saying don't get involved with a strong player OOP makes no sense when you look at the situation. Also, I would not assume Justin is the strongest player at the table on the bubble of a major tournament.

On the turn, I would check/call. Reevaluate on the river, with various possible approaches.

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I agree it's a call, but OP indicated ZJ had not been particularly aggressive with his pre-flop raising, although you're also correct that this is a spot where he's probably on a wide range.

Why wouldn't you assume Justin is the strongest at the table?

Re: Top two on a scary board vs Zeejustin in Caesar\'s 10k
 

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Why wouldn't you assume Justin is the strongest at the table?

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I really don't know how strong Justin is relative to Fischman or Singer or whatever, but here is the final table of the event. At this stage of a major tournament, you could easily have Ivey, Negreanu, or some other big name live pro at your table.

Seat No. 1 – Alex Bolotin - $222,000
Seat No. 2 – David Singer - $304,000
Seat No. 3 – Justin Bonomo - $702,000
Seat No. 4 – Jose Valdes - $182,000
Seat No. 5 – Vivek "Psyduck" Rajkumar - $248,000
Seat No. 6 – George Unich - $168,000
Seat No. 7 – Scott Fischman - $733,000
Seat No. 8 – Tony Cousineau - $816,000
Seat No. 9 – Kido Pham - $913,000

Re: Top two on a scary board vs Zeejustin in Caesar\'s 10k
 

I don't quite think Scott 'Captain Open Limp' Fischman is quite on the same level as ZJ.

Re: Top two on a scary board vs Zeejustin in Caesar\'s 10k
 

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Why wouldn't you assume Justin is the strongest at the table?

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I really don't know how strong Justin is relative to Fischman or Singer or whatever

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I have a guess.

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big name live pro

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I'd take Justin over almost any of them, including one of the two you mentioned.

Re: Top two on a scary board vs Zeejustin in Caesar\'s 10k
 

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Why wouldn't you assume Justin is the strongest at the table?

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I really don't know how strong Justin is relative to Fischman or Singer or whatever

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I have a guess.

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big name live pro

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I'd take Justin over almost any of them, including one of the two you mentioned.

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I didn't know Justin's reputation was that strong. I think there are some pretty weak "big name TV pros", but wouldn't really take anyone over live pros such as Ivey, Negreanu, Brunson, Greenstein, or Hansen.

In any case, my point is that if you look at that final table, it is mostly pros. Whether or not Justin is the best player at that table, there were probably some other strong ones.

Therefore, I wouldn't wouldn't fold JTs in the SB to his bubble raise. In a live tournament, you are getting pretty good pot odds in the SB with the ante, and I would be reluctant to fold JTs to a raise in general.

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As played, I call and check-call anything but a Q river.

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Also, I bet out if river is T or J.

Re: Top two on a scary board vs Zeejustin in Caesar\'s 10k
 

I'd wager every $ or asset to my name that Justin Bonomo is a better poker player than Daniel Negreanu, anyone named Brunson, and Gus Hansen

Re: Top two on a scary board vs Zeejustin in Caesar\'s 10k
 

with 75+ bb effective stacks i'm never folding pre. pf/flop is standard. although this is a good flop to lead for sure.

on the turn i'd probably bet a significant majority of the time. if i did check and he bet, my main problem with a big check raise is that i think it blows him off a lot of hands that will either fire river when checked to or call a river donk lead. from what i can tell ZJ is vastly superior to the avg tourney player in terms of hand reading and pot control, so i don't really see what a turn check raise accomplishes here. if we DO c/r and he shoves, man, how can we ever be good unless he has T9/J9 and reads you for a semi bluff?

oh and if he flat called the turn lead i'd check the river fast and most likely call his bet.

Re: Top two on a scary board vs Zeejustin in Caesar\'s 10k
 

Scott Fishman sucks, enough said.

C/c the turn and river unless if you hit T/J or if Q comes out

Re: Top two on a scary board vs Zeejustin in Caesar\'s 10k
 

I like check/call turn and river. If he checks behind on turn, then bet/call river if not 4-straight or 3-flush.