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Ranma4703 10-24-2007 10:30 PM

Re: NL 50 flopped set facing lots of heat
 
I call this so fast. Folding this is a huge error. I believe that a lot of 2+2'ers are way too nitty - maybe it is because they want to seem 'good' enough to make a tough laydown, maybe it is because 90% of the hands posted here are ones that the hero lost, but JESUS CHRIST YOU HAVE A SET ALL IN. Maybe we need another photo contest?

I just noticed, I thought you were double stacked. You have less than 100bbs, go broke with a set every time and you will on average win a lot more than when you try to figure out when you are beat and fold it. Unless you have a stellar read, just don't fold it. Most of the time they are drawing dead, and whenever you are behind you usually have 7 flop + 10 turn outs to win, and the times you only have 1 out happen, I believe the odds are something like 1 in 100? So just get it in, PLEASE.

Shattered 10-24-2007 10:36 PM

Re: NL 50 flopped set facing lots of heat
 
Oh, right, you're not deep. Fistpump call please.

Hail Eris 10-24-2007 10:38 PM

Re: NL 50 flopped set facing lots of heat
 
Meh, if BTN is good, I might think about folding this, because your lead there looks very strong. I mean if am BTN and I see a donk limp/call and a TAG flat OOP and then lead this flop, and the donk shoves, I'm folding AA.

But I'd only think about folding, and then call.

pokernoobs 10-24-2007 10:40 PM

Re: NL 50 flopped set facing lots of heat
 
i think u will facing a higher set or straight at here.
i will push it i am top set or middle ,but i will folded the low set at here :>

Woody317 10-24-2007 10:51 PM

Re: NL 50 flopped set facing lots of heat
 
I think you're beaten a fair bit but there's no way i'm folding this getting 2:1. i think you see 2-pair, sets and QQ+ from button here enough to make it very +EV. I'm not really worried about the monkey. He coud easily do this with 2 pair or overpairs.

Profish2285 10-24-2007 11:02 PM

Re: NL 50 flopped set facing lots of heat
 
Theres no way anyone here is folding a set. I dont care what anyone says, in a vacuum no one is folding, its that simple. The reason for this is because when it comes down to it, if you fold, and see when he shows you an overpair you wont be able to sleep for a couple of nights. Just call, set over set happens so rarely anyway that its not like this is going to become some huge leak. You are definitely good here often enough IMO to make this call profitable. If this board was all one suit it would be a different story, but its not.

willyc 10-24-2007 11:08 PM

Re: NL 50 flopped set facing lots of heat
 
This is a pretty good example of when it's OK to fold a set for 100BB.

Khumalo 10-24-2007 11:16 PM

Re: NL 50 flopped set facing lots of heat
 
Hmmm, I guess the ranges I posted, especially for BTN, were unconvincing.

It is true that I perhaps overlooked that hero's lead on the flop, assuming his image is solid, looks strong enough to (dramatically?) narrow BTN's range.

I'm still never folding [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

kindergartencop 10-25-2007 01:16 AM

Re: NL 50 flopped set facing lots of heat
 
well i called, had third best lol. button had 77 mouthbreather had the ol 35o. thanks for thoughts. i thought about it for a bit and im still on the fence whether i like it or not.


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