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RAHZero 10-18-2007 06:18 PM

Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?
 
Hands 1 and 2 are pretty standard.

Hand 3 is a turbo shove, clearly button is not very good and will have all sorts of random junk here.

SirFelixCat 10-18-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?
 
I agree w/ 1 & 2, although on 2, you can make a case for calling the turn and re-eval river.

3: Fistpump and get it all in, sir.

Sh@i'tan 10-18-2007 06:31 PM

Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?
 
1 is fine
2 im calling the turn
3 im shoving

Claunchy 10-18-2007 06:36 PM

Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?
 
Mistakes in order of egregiousness:

1. Folding the flop in hand 3
2. Checking the turn in hand 1
3. Folding the turn in hand 2 (this one is arguably ok)

Burcak 10-18-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?
 
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I agree w/ 1 & 2, although on 2, you can make a case for calling the turn and re-eval river.

3: Fistpump and get it all in, sir.

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What is it we are hoping that he has? Or are we just beating a bluff? If we are, why don't we just call and let him bluff again?

Tbh I got in the same situation 5 times in the last 20 days (and exactly 5 times). All 5 of them I had 2 outs (and hit them all but one, btw). I am not sure bad people raise with random junk on this kind of flop.

terp 10-18-2007 06:47 PM

Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?
 
1) b/f turn

2) i shove this a lot but i definitely at least call

3) whatever you do, don't fold

goofyballer 10-18-2007 06:54 PM

Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?
 
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3- don't fold. jesus.

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QFT

As for the other two, I'm reluctant to spread my stationy advice over the forum but I think you can call hand 1 and see random crap like nines or A3, hand 2 I probably peel cause lol screw donkbets he probably has 55.

bilbo-san 10-18-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?
 
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I agree w/ 1 & 2, although on 2, you can make a case for calling the turn and re-eval river.

3: Fistpump and get it all in, sir.

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What is it we are hoping that he has? Or are we just beating a bluff? If we are, why don't we just call and let him bluff again?

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You are giving this guy 2 much credit. Guys like this bluff a lot here, AND they turn hands like 33-TT/Jx into bluffs all the time. They THINK they're betting for value.

Don't make the mistake of assuming that he's thinking about your calling range when he raises one pair for value on this flop.


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