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Landonfan 10-11-2007 06:39 PM

Re: Hand reading exercise
 
Hand 1
Hero holds {AK/AQ, maybe TT/99}
UTG holds {any set, AJ if he's retarded, and I wouldn't entirely discount QQ-AA}
SB holds {I have no idea}

Hand 2
SB holds{9x}
UTGholds {9x/88/T7cc/75cc}

Hand 3
BB holds{Kxss/K4}
MP1 holds {AQ?}
Hero holds{KQs/88}

Your stats aren't worth much, so this is just a lot of guesswork [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

Smurph64 10-11-2007 10:14 PM

Re: Hand reading exercise
 
if someone isn't misbetting in every hand, I would be very surprised.

Landonfan 10-11-2007 10:32 PM

Re: Hand reading exercise
 
Results?

maverickai 10-12-2007 01:45 AM

Re: Hand reading exercise
 
My answers

Hand 1
Hero holds {TT-KK, A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]/AJ}
UTG holds {JJ (likely), 77, AJ, 67}
SB holds {45?? can't see where his line would be}

Hand 2
SB holds{Ace rag [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9T, 89, A9}
UTGholds {Ace rag [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9T, 89, 88(likely!), A9}

Hand 3
BB holds{TJ+[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]}
MP1 holds {AK, AQ}
Hero holds{QK}

Sushiglutton 10-12-2007 10:38 AM

Correct answers ad some thoughts
 
Hand 1
Hero holds A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG holds J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB holds A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hand 2
SB holds 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTGholds J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hand 3
BB holds Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
MP1 holds K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero holds K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (should have capped flop probably, but planned to raise the turn)



Afterthought

The important part to take with u from this exercise and indeed was its hole purpose, is that u can read TAG players hands pretty well, but it is extremely hard to read the fish.
Who would include K6o from UTG+1 in the raising range for someone raising 7% (ok, not that many hands). It simply makes no sense. Or why does two passive players cap eachother with the low FH? Or why do you stay wth A2 to the river and then donk bottom pair?

The problem with many of the ranges I see in calculations in this forum is that they make perfect sense. But our villains play often makes no sense at all. Don't forget to add some 'air' or you will fold too much and value-bet/raise to little.

DON'T GIVE FISHY VILLAINS 'REASONABLE' RANGES!!!!!


Finally the winner, scoring 172 points is Miles!

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!

scpi10 10-12-2007 11:53 AM

Re: Correct answers ad some thoughts
 
I need to work on table selection. I rarely find a player who donks the river with A2 in hand 1. I want to know if that was a bluff or a bet for value?

jwalk 10-12-2007 12:41 PM

Re: Correct answers ad some thoughts
 
lol hopefully it wasnt a misclick. I think my worse misclick was the first time i played 6tables at once. I folded AKs from the bb to a raise.....

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S 10-12-2007 12:51 PM

Re: Correct answers ad some thoughts
 
grunching....

in the first hand i would say hero probly has AA... UTG obv has JJ, and i would put SB on something really random, like A2s or somthing

hand 2 well obviously they have the 2 remaining 8s as they go nuts when it hits, i would guess SB has something like 85 and UTG could have like J8?

hand 3 well obviously BB has the flush, and not the A-hi flush, so im guessing its Q-hi... something like Q9ss. i cant put mp1 on a range at all, so im just gonna guess a random hand like K6o, could be could be. finally obviously hero has KQs (id go with clubs), but that kind of gos without saying

Smurph64 10-12-2007 02:19 PM

Re: Correct answers ad some thoughts
 
Yep. No reason to not 3 bet turn on hand 1 for hero with AA.

Yep. Hand two both idiots. Poker Stars must love these guys.

Yep. MP1 is an idiot.

Sushiglutton 10-12-2007 04:12 PM

Re: Correct answers ad some thoughts
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yep. No reason to not 3 bet turn on hand 1 for hero with AA.idiot.

[/ QUOTE ]

This line by villain stinks set so much tha I almost vomit.


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