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Soulman 10-10-2007 04:10 PM

Re: AJo UTG
 
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I play the 100k on mansion quite a lot, and IMO very few of them are thinking players, and even fewer 2p2. if the relative stacks are ~5k i'd be open raisning stronger than 1k. probably 1.5k. if short stack is pushing his range will probably be quite wide and he's not in the best position to be doing that this hand, unless he has a monster. you can fold to a shove from another player and still remain CL.

Before it does become a crap shoot you want to be accumulating chips. AJ doesn't play too well multi way, so raising strong here i feel would be your best option. you have the HH?

also cant find a hand converter for Mansion...

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I haven't played at Mansion much lately, but do people really fold that much more to a 3.5x raise than a 2.5x raise with 99+,AQ+? If people are tight, it's generally a good idea to raise less since you will have good FE anyway.

I'd personally be inclined to toss this PF, but I don't think raise/folding is necessarily too bad either. There's about a 4% chance that each player will pick up a hand that has you beat, so you're taking it down the requisite 2/3 of the time just about enough.

So I think raise = fold >>>>>> limp. I still think raising 2,5x is better, espec if raising 3,5x commits you to calling a push from more players.

Soulman 10-10-2007 04:11 PM

Re: AJo UTG
 
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I pretty much stopped playing AJo. Personally, I think it's horrific to play it UTG 10 handed.

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This isn't Stars or FTP, you have to adjust to different players.

brad2002tj 10-10-2007 04:29 PM

Re: AJo UTG
 
Harrington's logic is that you raise larger so that your decision to call a short stack's all-in move is easier. Guess I see both points of view.

JSchnett 10-10-2007 04:48 PM

Re: AJo UTG
 
lol limp jesus christ

I think this is a fold depending on the table.

ASPoker8 10-10-2007 04:53 PM

Re: AJo UTG
 
fold > raise >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>&gt ; quit poker > limp


although raise > fold at some tables

Soulman 10-10-2007 04:54 PM

Re: AJo UTG
 
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Harrington's logic is that you raise larger so that your decision to call a short stack's all-in move is easier. Guess I see both points of view.

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That's a pretty crappy reason. Does Harrington really say that? Then why not raise 4x, 5x, 6x?

TheNewf 10-10-2007 04:57 PM

Re: AJo UTG
 
this is a really easy fold.

brad2002tj 10-10-2007 05:04 PM

Re: AJo UTG
 
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Harrington's logic is that you raise larger so that your decision to call a short stack's all-in move is easier. Guess I see both points of view.

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That's a pretty crappy reason. Does Harrington really say that? Then why not raise 4x, 5x, 6x?

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He does indeed say that. I believe the exact discussion in HOH2 was involving playing 88 in a similar situation.

mikeJ 10-10-2007 05:06 PM

Re: AJo UTG
 
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fold > raise >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>&gt ; quit poker > limp


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Comedian, ehh?

W/ this dinky ante, I fold. If antes were like 1/10th bb, I'd open.

curtains 10-10-2007 06:51 PM

Re: AJo UTG
 
Raising PF is totally fine. Matter of style more than anything IMO.


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