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SABR42 10-05-2007 02:24 PM

Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
 
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standard call

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So, given the fact that your pfr is close to your vpip, does 22-99 make up almost all of your CCs?

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No. I also didn't say my pfr is THAT close to my VPIP, just saying that's how one would get there.

mack848 10-05-2007 02:38 PM

Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
 
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Or just remember "if it's good enough to call it's most likely good enough to raise".

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This is the reason I have been posting in this thread - I don't agree.

I think it is clearly better to call a raise with a small/mid pair, than it is to 3bet or fold.

QTip 10-05-2007 02:38 PM

Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
 
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Or just remember "if it's good enough to call it's most likely good enough to raise".

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This has always seemed like the dumbest saying to me.

Mr_Donktastic 10-05-2007 02:41 PM

Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
 
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Or just remember "if it's good enough to call it's most likely good enough to raise".

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This has always seemed like the dumbest saying to me.

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Thats because it is.

jmillerdls 10-05-2007 03:20 PM

Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
 
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Let's say you have 22-88 OTB and there was an EP raise and a few cold callers.

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I'm assuming you play <100nl? Cuz this doesn't really happen that often at 200nl+.

To answer your Q basically just never open limp and cold call/overlimp rarely.

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this sounds like limit advice to me.

RapidEvolution 10-05-2007 03:39 PM

Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
 
I got my %'s closer by doing 2 things

1) I don't open-limp anymore. IMO, it screams, I have a low pair! By raising with these, I've been able to get paid off more with my high pairs, and mislead villain into thinking I hit TPTK on the A-T-6 board and he's gonna bust me with 2pair, when in reality, I'm holding 66.

2) I won't coldcall a raise unless

a) There is more than 1 caller already and I have a drawing hand/small PP.

b)I have position, we're both deepstacked, AND I know he'll stack off with an overpair. Depending on villain, I might do this with ATC, but usually I want some kind of drawing hand.

After making these changes, my stats went from 13/8 to 12/10 and opponents' play against me has been easier to deal with (assuming I don't donk things up lol)

King Spew 10-05-2007 03:54 PM

Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
 
Don't forget that just completing the SB reduces you PFR%.

GrandMelon 10-05-2007 03:57 PM

Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
 
Also raise more out of the blinds, most people are way too passive in those spots

RapidEvolution 10-05-2007 04:02 PM

Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
 
Happy Birthday GM!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Hmmm...what's a good raise from the blind % in comparison to your PFR?

br.bm 10-05-2007 04:30 PM

Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
 
My PFR from the Blinds is about 1/2 to 2/3 of my button PFR.

If I open the pot I always raise. I cold call nearly always with:22-TT, sometimes suited connectors, QQ and AK rarely with A2s to A5s.
Sometimes I 3bet (off)suited connectors in position... but thats my FPS atm ^^


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