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The dealer can only spread it around so you can get a better look.

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I do not allow dealers to spread the pot. The dealer should not be touching the pot.

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QFT, HANDS OUT OF THE POT at all times!

The only situations that would require a dealer to touch the pot is the dealer is taking rake or making needed change for blinds/cash that was bet.

Pot bets only count in Pot Limit. The dealer is not allowed to aid the players in the play of a hand, up to and including telling them how much the pot is to help them figure out bet sizing/pot odds.

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I'm curious which rooms one is allowed to forbid the dealer from spreading the pot. In the MidAtlantic, the idea that this couldn't be allowed has never come up.

Note: Not saying it's not true. Just wondering how widespread this is.

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I'm curious which rooms one is allowed to forbid the dealer from spreading the pot. In the MidAtlantic, the idea that this couldn't be allowed has never come up.

Note: Not saying it's not true. Just wondering how widespread this is.

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Any supervisor that understands poker should require that the dealers not touch the pot. If you find a room where the dealers are allowed to spread the pot I would be very careful as this makes it easier for the dealer to steal money and most likely that the floor is not familiar with basic procedures to protect the game.

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I don't mind the spreading the pot thing. If you wanna spread it then go ahead and spread it.

Re: Betting the pot.
 

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The dealer can only spread it around so you can get a better look.

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I do not allow dealers to spread the pot. The dealer should not be touching the pot.

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QFT, HANDS OUT OF THE POT at all times!

The only situations that would require a dealer to touch the pot is the dealer is taking rake or making needed change for blinds/cash that was bet.

Pot bets only count in Pot Limit. The dealer is not allowed to aid the players in the play of a hand, up to and including telling them how much the pot is to help them figure out bet sizing/pot odds.

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So is the dealer allowed to touch the pot in pot limit?

If not, what happens if the dealer says the pot is one amount but one of the players in the hand claims he is wrong?

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Well if you say "I raise 200$" and only put 100$ you still have to bet 200$ as what you say is more important than what you put in front of you.

So I figured it would be the same here. Btw how come you cant ask for the dealer to count the pot ? I asked for it once and he just shuffled the pot for me to see what chips was in but refused to count.

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I already answered that for you. In NLHE the dealer doesn't count the pot and he shouldn't be spreading ships around either. Part of the game is being able to calculate the previous bets. If you can't do that then the other players who can have a built in edge. Why should you get that edge back for free?

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The dealer can only spread it around so you can get a better look.

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I do not allow dealers to spread the pot. The dealer should not be touching the pot.

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QFT, HANDS OUT OF THE POT at all times!

The only situations that would require a dealer to touch the pot is the dealer is taking rake or making needed change for blinds/cash that was bet.

Pot bets only count in Pot Limit. The dealer is not allowed to aid the players in the play of a hand, up to and including telling them how much the pot is to help them figure out bet sizing/pot odds.

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So is the dealer allowed to touch the pot in pot limit?

If not, what happens if the dealer says the pot is one amount but one of the players in the hand claims he is wrong?

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Well there are typically 9 players and one dealer so they will correct the dealer if he is wrong about the pot size.

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The dealer can only spread it around so you can get a better look.

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I do not allow dealers to spread the pot. The dealer should not be touching the pot.

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QFT, HANDS OUT OF THE POT at all times!

The only situations that would require a dealer to touch the pot is the dealer is taking rake or making needed change for blinds/cash that was bet.

Pot bets only count in Pot Limit. The dealer is not allowed to aid the players in the play of a hand, up to and including telling them how much the pot is to help them figure out bet sizing/pot odds.

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So is the dealer allowed to touch the pot in pot limit?

If not, what happens if the dealer says the pot is one amount but one of the players in the hand claims he is wrong?

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Pot limit is one of those games where the dealer has to touch the pot. I haven't played much live, casino PL but at our home games we have the dealer stack the bets in the middle to make counting easier.

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Pot limit is one of those games where the dealer has to touch the pot. I haven't played much live, casino PL but at our home games we have the dealer stack the bets in the middle to make counting easier.

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Stewart Reuben & Bob Ciaffone, in "Pot-Limit & No-Limit Poker", actually recommend that the dealer just keep mental track of the pot size. They state that many players prefer not having the pot stacked up neatly, as it "draws too much attention to pot size." In practice the pot size needs to be known or mentioned only when somebody tries to exceed it.

FWIW, I prefer having the pot stacked neatly but I play mostly split-pot games, where it is much more important for keeping the game moving quickly.

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The dealer can only spread it around so you can get a better look.

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I do not allow dealers to spread the pot. The dealer should not be touching the pot.

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QFT, HANDS OUT OF THE POT at all times!

The only situations that would require a dealer to touch the pot is the dealer is taking rake or making needed change for blinds/cash that was bet.

Pot bets only count in Pot Limit. The dealer is not allowed to aid the players in the play of a hand, up to and including telling them how much the pot is to help them figure out bet sizing/pot odds.

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So is the dealer allowed to touch the pot in pot limit?

If not, what happens if the dealer says the pot is one amount but one of the players in the hand claims he is wrong?

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Well there are typically 9 players and one dealer so they will correct the dealer if he is wrong about the pot size.

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And what about split pot games? I've played in games where the dealer stacked the pot after every street so it didn't take 5 minutes after every hand.

I'm fairly sure I've read rules that while the dealer can't give the player the pot size they can stack the chips to allow the player to correctly count the pot. I feel like you're over-reacting.