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AcTiOnJaCsOn 10-03-2007 12:26 PM

Re: regarding villain\'s stack size and tendencies....
 
im folding this

Jackal69 10-03-2007 12:31 PM

Re: Not as \"standard\" a hand as it might seem at first blush....
 
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All-in. Get rid of flush draws, get called by A,Q. He is not that deep anyway.

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mods pls set an example and start banning people wholesale...

anduril 10-03-2007 01:24 PM

Re: regarding villain\'s stack size and tendencies....
 
Tk,

fair nuff. Didn't mean to imply you play bad, and clearly I'm not aware of the current game dynamic. With regards to what others think you might do here, it seems like your decision is very weighted on game flow and image, of which we are not easily able to understand as well as you, and therefore can't make a great analysis besides everyone's usual one word post. If I decide to continue with the hand, I'd call and c/r all-in on a non-draw hitting turn since you say he is very likely to fire twice. I don't think sticking it in on the flop is neither good nor bad, since I don't know what villain will think of it.

g-p 10-03-2007 01:31 PM

Re: regarding villain\'s stack size and tendencies....
 
he know what you have and 'intelligent lags' people dont try to get people to fold TPTK in live games

MYNAMEIZGREG 10-03-2007 01:49 PM

Re: regarding villain\'s stack size and tendencies....
 
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he know what you very likely have and 'intelligent lags' people dont try to get people to fold TPTK in live games

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g-p 10-03-2007 01:50 PM

Re: regarding villain\'s stack size and tendencies....
 
nope, he knows EXACTLY !

Thinkards 10-03-2007 01:54 PM

Re: regarding villain\'s stack size and tendencies....
 
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he know what you have and 'intelligent lags' people dont try to get people to fold TPTK in live games

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This is incredibly confusing to me.

If he knows I have TPTK, and he is not trying to get me to fold, then shouldn't I be folding? In other words, if the case is as you suggest, then what is the purpose of his raise?

If he is that far ahead, AND ALSO knows what I have, then shouldn't an intelligent lag be waiting for the turn to get more money in the pot by raising?

By your analysis, his raise represents a lot of strength; thus, you are suggesting a fold, right?


TK

Thinkards 10-03-2007 02:10 PM

is g-p making any sense to anyone?
 
g-p,

Could you PLEASE explain your responses? And, if you could articulate, what would be your course of action here?

It would be most appreciated.


TK

0evg0 10-03-2007 02:25 PM

Re: is g-p making any sense to anyone?
 
ur villain isnt as smart as yr giving him credit for

van_exel_fan 10-03-2007 02:40 PM

Re: is g-p making any sense to anyone?
 
You are a dog to his range of hands. Best case scenario is he has 12 outs (Axss). You lost 26BB don't lose 260BB...

Fold. Just don't let anyone know what you laid down.


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