Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn
 

anything but call is dumb
in fact an argument can be made for calling turn raise and donking a blank river

Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn
 

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i certainly dont wanna fold, i really want to raise but it could be a oddly played AK

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How often will he hold a calling hand not including a K, compared to how often he will hold AK?

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qft

i think there is a higher probability of a worse hand (8x, random donk factor) than AK even after the turn cap and river bet, therefore i would raise the turn.

Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn
 

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i certainly dont wanna fold, i really want to raise but it could be a oddly played AK

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How often will he hold a calling hand not including a K, compared to how often he will hold AK?

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qft

i think there is a higher probability of a worse hand (8x, random donk factor) than AK even after the turn cap and river bet, therefore i would raise the turn.

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this post makes no sense. So you are advocating a raise on the river?

Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn
 

yes, i meant that i advocate raising the river. most people think its a spew, but im stubborn.

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yes, i meant that i advocate raising the river. most people think its a spew, but im stubborn.

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so terrible. he'll have Ksxs way way way more often than he has something like an 8.

Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn
 

villain is unknown?

as far as I see it:
- lots of people suck
- lots of regulars do tricky stuff in blindbattle
- people go crazy with the idiot street
- and at stars low limit there are also people who caps a set on turn no matter of the board

I go with:
put in a raise (still doing some stove)

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villain is unknown?


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There's a read in the OP.

Calling here is clearly best.

Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn
 

hmm, I guess I misread the river.

If river is a blank I raise, if river gets the flush along I call

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Thats certainly a blank river [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

What do you wantto do on the river? Seriously, did you really think about something else than calling?

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no it isnt it completes a flush and villian could have been freerolling you with a K and spade draw

just call it