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traz 09-26-2007 01:19 PM

Re: NL25 AK
 
I don't mind cring here because alot of players will let it check around multiway. I'd probably cr bigger though.

If it's hu i'm going with b3b.

Someone mentioned donking the flop and then folding to a raise...don't do that

ajmargarine 09-26-2007 01:27 PM

Re: NL25 AK
 
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donkbet the flop. if villain puts in a huge raise. fold.



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No. If he raises you, you push. As played preflop (3b pre yo), I like a donkbet with the intent of pushing if he raises.

Dallas Dru 09-26-2007 01:29 PM

Re: NL25 AK
 
pre 3b,

the rest looks pretty standard to me. it is hard to get away from this hand because your equity is so high. a strong preflop game is important here though because what happens it that hand doesn't hit. your call will look weak and most likely be pushed out of the pot by a decent player.

KIZDuck 09-26-2007 01:30 PM

Re: NL25 AK
 
i think b3b is much better than a c/r.

if you c/r he is the one who shoves allin, so you dont have any foldequity.

if u play b3b you can push him allin and he might fold.

ajmargarine 09-26-2007 01:37 PM

Re: NL25 AK
 
c/r here is not standard peoples.

b3bai > c/c > c/r > c/f

NL Newbie 09-26-2007 01:40 PM

Re: NL25 AK
 
I think you played this perfectly., Specially if he cbets alot of flops/aggro vs 2 players.

NL Newbie 09-26-2007 01:41 PM

Re: NL25 AK
 
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c/r here is not standard peoples.

b3bai > c/c > c/r > c/f

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Why do you feel bet/3bet best?

ajmargarine 09-26-2007 01:48 PM

Re: NL25 AK
 
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c/r here is not standard peoples.

b3bai > c/c > c/r > c/f

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Why do you feel bet/3bet best?

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You want to play it like a set (or 7s8s). If you have 55, best play is to lead/push if raised. By leading we disguise our hand, we also have a sandwiched player between us and the pfr that can put some money in the middle. Then if PFR raises, we push with a little FE.

NL Newbie 09-26-2007 01:58 PM

Re: NL25 AK
 
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c/r here is not standard peoples.

b3bai > c/c > c/r > c/f

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Why do you feel bet/3bet best?

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You want to play it like a set (or 7s8s). If you have 55, best play is to lead/push if raised. By leading we disguise our hand, we also have a sandwiched player between us and the pfr that can put some money in the middle. Then if PFR raises, we push with a little FE.

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Yeah i thought that was the plan, i prefer a C/r though.

We get Cbets when villan "bluffs"(Bets TT, AK, low PPs),
We show ALOT of strength(max FE vs QQ which is pretty close to 50% here),
We can easily have a set(Inline with set play often),
QQ folds alot(I consider this to be quite a nice result),
JJ won't fold anyway(So betting kills bluffs or we lose),
sometimes we get a free card to hit our draw anyway when villan gets fancy or has nothing(We'd get nothing by betting vs air anyway, free card vs JJ is awesome).

ajmargarine 09-26-2007 02:06 PM

Re: NL25 AK
 
NLN:

1. What's your plan on a blank turn when you get called on the flop?
2. No one's folding QQ here to either of our lines at NL25. I hope he has QQ when I b3bai so he calls and puts his money in bad.


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