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qwnu 09-23-2007 02:38 AM

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Saying one doesn't believe in God doesn't mean one doesn't believe in the possibility of the existence of some other-being that is all-powerful. It simply means one doesn't subscribe to the present options available in organized religion. It is very different to those who are against God.

And interesting that, PREDICTABLY, the religous are focusing on labelling here instead of looking at the issue being raised, which is that religion simply is not the No.1 overriding dominant social issue that the fanatics on both sides would want to shove down our throats and have us believe.

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What I'm focusing on is definitions. If you define an atheist as a militant, God-hating fanatic, as you apparently do, it's important to understand that. That's just not the standard (or correct) definition.

So your point is what? That other people put too much emphasis on religion (or the lack thereof) in their lives? Because you don't think it's a big deal, nobody else should either? That doesn't seem like a very insightful or interesting point to me.

Using words like "fanatic" to describe every position but your own also seems unnecessarily antagonistic.

Finally, your failed to meet your own standard of "correct spelling". Anyway, perfect spelling can't cover up an incoherent argument.

luckyme 09-23-2007 02:39 AM

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Please learn to use correct spelling and grammar if you want to critique, otherwise you come across as very stupid.

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It would only concern me if it were true, hhhhmmm...not even then, because there's nothing I can do about it nor likely recognize it.
Until I decide, feel free to challenge and correct any argument I make that you are able to follow.

thanks for the heads up, luckyme

joes28 09-23-2007 02:43 AM

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u have no idea what the word atheist means.

luckyme 09-23-2007 03:18 AM

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u have no idea what the word atheist means.

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What now?! I go out for a mocha and they go and change another word on me.
This morning it meant "does not believe god(s) exist". Have they added to that? and they have to be three headed???

luckyme

joes28 09-23-2007 03:27 AM

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i was referring to the OP.

Sephus 09-23-2007 03:45 AM

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There also aren't very many social issues that aren't affected by, for example, Television and the media and the images they portray.

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yes, and for that reason comparing "the effects of television and the media and the images they portray" and "pornography" wouldn't make much sense either.

einbert 09-23-2007 03:55 AM

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I don't believe in God nor do I have a thing against those who do, so I'm neither religious nor atheist

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Since when is it a requirement to dislike theists to be an atheist? Whether you'd like to own up to it, you're a nontheist. And what you're saying sounds a lot more like atheist than agnostic to me.
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Not that it matters of course.

einbert 09-23-2007 03:58 AM

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It doesn't matter whether he is technically an atheist or not. He's making the point that he is seeing this from an objective point of view.

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I want to make an objectively better point.

He needs to vent against atheists and religious fanatics, so he came to this forum of course. He got like 90% hits, which is pretty good compared to his Counterstrike scores. But it's funny that he tries to distance himself from the "not-good" atheists using labeling. Almost eerily similar to how Catholics and Protestants refer to each other, although they really believe damn near the same thing. Isn't that funny?

einbert 09-23-2007 04:00 AM

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Please learn to use correct spelling and grammar if you want to critique, otherwise you come across as very stupid.

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This statement comes across as very stupid. Korrekt speeling isn't necessary to make a damn point.

VENGEANCE 09-23-2007 04:15 AM

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Going back to what the original post was asking about... I think your observation is very real and I have noticed that in many people's lives everything else besides religion is more important.


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