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Rollos 09-16-2007 03:20 PM

Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).
 
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seriously, how can you think your AA is still good after a bet, call and a overcall... You are so beat

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Because the board is suited and three to a straight?

fees 09-16-2007 03:32 PM

Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).
 
wow fold

ajmargarine 09-16-2007 03:33 PM

Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).
 
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This is not awful.

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!!!

EddieRooo 09-16-2007 03:40 PM

Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).
 
At first I thought this was pretty bad, as in I'd rather just fold the flop when it gets back round to you but given how the preflop action has gone down a set seems relatively unlikely so I don't hate the shove as a semibluff.

If you do get called you don't really have any outs if you are behind, but some percentage of the time you might get called and be up against a combo draw and there's plenty of dead money in the pot to make this a worthwhile raise for protection/semibluff.

I think it is much more likely that the overcallers are calling light with draws than slowplaying a hand that has you crushed. Then again this is just about the worst flop possible for AA.

keikiwai 09-16-2007 03:42 PM

Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).
 
it's possible you're ahead and it's possible villain's have each other's outs

i think it's pretty close, it's better than an open shove though, imo

i think folding to a bet and then a raise is fine, and this is very marginal

Jay Riall 09-16-2007 03:44 PM

Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).
 
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As played with the strong UTG bet and 2 callers I'm just calling, and I really don't like my hand one bit. Seriously I'd rather fold in this spot than shove.

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Dno why I said I'd played as call lol, that would be terrible.

thedustbustr 09-16-2007 03:44 PM

Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).
 
i like it. i think you can get called by draws all over the place which helps make up for the times you are against T9 which you do have some equity against

pineapple888 09-16-2007 08:18 PM

Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).
 
I sigh and fold pretty fast. This flop is all kinds of ugly. I don't know how many times I've overplayed AA in these spots, but it rarely works out.

keikiwai 09-16-2007 08:20 PM

Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).
 
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i like it. i think you can get called by draws all over the place which helps make up for the times you are against T9 which you do have some equity against

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there are more combos of QJ and 76 than T9 or any other 2 pair

willw9 09-16-2007 08:20 PM

Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).
 
I c/f flop.


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