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AAismyfriend 09-14-2007 07:08 PM

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i agree with Fionn, I def like a 3bet flop and get it in.

As played, I'd call and feel moderately good about it.

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He'd need to be pretty awful for me to feel moderately good about getting it in on the flop, but it looks like that might be the case so w/e I guess what I'm really trying to say is I'd like to have some sort of grasp on what he's minraising flops with, because some always have a monster, and for others it's air or some dumb feeler raise with a low PP. Without knowing any of this I really don't like getting it in on the flop.

MATT111 09-14-2007 07:09 PM

Re: wtf
 
I call.
At first I thought fold as the oesd got there but even fish fear the FD. Same thing goes for Qx.
This is a busted FD a lot imo.
3-betting the flop is not a a good play against this type of opponent.

Edit: I dont mind a small 3-bet actually.

Borned_Luckbox1 09-14-2007 07:09 PM

Re: wtf
 
If CO raised $210 instead of min-raise, do you still 3-bet him?

berserk 09-14-2007 07:15 PM

Re: wtf
 
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42/13 20wtsd 44/51/52 aggression freq by street.

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Do you guys fine aggression frequency or aggression factor more useful? I've never tried using aggression frequency.

DJ Sensei 09-14-2007 07:25 PM

Re: wtf
 
I bet turn or river if i just call flop, usually, but as played its a fold without better reads. I think 3betting flop is alright too, albeit high-variance, and again i'd prefer to have better reads to make that play.

disciple 09-14-2007 07:28 PM

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3-bet flop and get it in? As played probs fold

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Agreed.

Flop is nice and drawy, but not very threatening, with makes draws more likely, and makes it more likely he puts you on a semi-bluff.

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Could you expand on this regarding the non-threatening flop? Is it because of the 2 low cards that there can be a lot of high flush draw? I'm asking because this is one of the regular spot that I get and I feel that I should be more aggressive but doesn't feel uncomfortable putting money in w/ TPGK OOP. I always think that they won't call 3 bet unless we are beaten.

jc1418 09-14-2007 07:41 PM

Re: wtf
 
pull out ur balls and call

AAismyfriend 09-14-2007 07:45 PM

Re: wtf
 
I changed my mind about this hand. Unless he has exactly QJ, his hand makes no [censored] sense so call river and make a note.

HoosierAlum 09-14-2007 08:07 PM

Re: wtf
 
I bet the river

MATT111 09-14-2007 08:09 PM

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Dont get why we would want to bet the river.


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