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Sasuke 09-15-2007 04:24 AM

Re: 25/50 intressting turn situation.
 
Looks pretty much like 8j..

RandomUser 09-15-2007 06:41 AM

Re: 25/50 intressting turn situation.
 
AQ QQ 99 probably reraise preflop.

I think he is more likely to have a huge combo draw or pair+draw. Yes, he could have J8 or KJ suited, but he could just as easily have Jxdd or QJdd or similar and trying to push you off your A with a semibluff.

I think it is a marginal call, but still a call.

Kirkrrr 09-15-2007 06:48 AM

Re: 25/50 intressting turn situation.
 
I was in the insta-call camp at first but thinking about this some more I'm really not that sure... he should have figured out by the turn that you're not screwing around and have a big enough hand, and that turn card hits your whole range perfectly so he should realize it's a pretty horrible card to make a move on... I don't know, I probably wouldn't be able to get away from this but it's anything but an insta-call, if you think about it.

Kirk

freeucm 09-15-2007 06:50 AM

Re: 25/50 intressting turn situation.
 
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AQ QQ 99 probably reraise preflop.

I think he is more likely to have a huge combo draw or pair+draw. Yes, he could have J8 or KJ suited, but he could just as easily have Jxdd or QJdd or similar and trying to push you off your A with a semibluff.

I think it is a marginal call, but still a call.

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Its a bad call.

HeheOkok 09-15-2007 11:19 AM

Re: 25/50 intressting turn situation.
 
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Looks pretty much like 8j..

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klownage 09-15-2007 12:16 PM

Re: 25/50 intressting turn situation.
 
calling is really marginal at best....

greywolf 09-15-2007 12:28 PM

Re: 25/50 intressting turn situation.
 
This is marginal either way. The queen hits your range well and villains flop call is weak so he if he balanced he should CR when he hit his straight draw and some of his drawing hands since you will be betting the turn alot, esp a queen turn. Maybe also flopped sets if he doesnt reraise pre with 99 or TT.

AT here is IMO kind of a drawing line to where you should be calling.

omikron 09-16-2007 09:57 AM

Re: 25/50 intressting turn situation.
 
I think this is a straight or a combo draw with great equity. The only two pair is AQ.

Tough spot. I'd lean towards folding.

buddha01 09-16-2007 01:05 PM

Re: 25/50 intressting turn situation.
 
I would have bet more on the flop fearing the flush draw, what normally happens when you have two pair and there is a flush draw is you bet light and a big fear card comes down, I dislike that a lot and so bet hard in those spots,

The queen is a big danger card for you, if the guy has trips so be it but a big bet on the flop A BIG BET on the flop would have been better and then if nothing peels off on the turn you have to be able to easly make a pot sized bet or take a pot sized bet, the guy going all in is scary I would lay it down Its to much money and that tied with me not protecting "My pot"..

Its a fold for me but of course you were in top shape on the flop, I get the feeling he would have called an all in bet from you on the flop,, straight and flush draw? ,

what ever what do I know, results?

MadeHand 09-17-2007 06:57 AM

Re: 25/50 intressting turn situation.
 
I'm folding. Funny I had the same situation last night, 2 pair and I put him on the straight, called though as we weren't deep. Sure enough he had it only it was the junk end but he had it nonetheless. J8.


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