Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 

What about betting like 190.. it looks small in relation to the pot so he will be more apt to call it, and then there's only like 250 left and he can talk himself into a horrible call.

I agree though, preflop needs to be like 90.

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 

He probably jams kings or queens stubbornly on the turn a decent percentage here I'd say.

In retrospect I think $190 looks nicer.

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 

yah i think i shouldve raised pf more. sortve wanted to keep balances when i do it as a bluff (i typically 4ball smaller) but shouldnt really do it in this spot.

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 

175 shove. shove river. i bet to 100 pre.

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 

Raise more pre. As played just bet 3/4 pot and never fold.

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 

$110 on flop. I kinda like check turn, shove river.

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 

4-bet pre to $99. The rest plays itself.

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 

Boy I just don't like betting the turn. I don't play on Absolute so I'm not sure how these deep stack games go, but if villain is a reg and seems reasonable I just don't see him getting 300BB in there in a 4bet pot over all three streets with a hand that can't beat AA. I mean, if he really wanted to felt KK, you'd tend to think he'd be jacking again it pre or else c/r flop.

The only things that make me consider just going for bet/bet/bet is that you've been playing fast and he may just try to put you on a light resteal pre. Even so, I think there's only one street of value left and I think you're more likely to get paid on the river.

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 

His hand is basically KK or QQ here and yeah I dont think you get 3 streets, especially from QQ.

I played a nearly identical hand with a near identical board a few months ago at 400nl against a very solid player. I did 4bet bigger pre, 3/4 psb flop, so river was about a psb left. I checked behind turn and shoved river when checked to, he tanked and folded and showed QQ, but I think a less solid player could stack off with QQ here and more often KK with this line.

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 

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orange, how much do you want to play for here? because if you bet turn, you are playing for all 300bbs.

if you want to play for less (150bbs), then check the turn behind.

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i want to play for all 300bbs. but i'm wondering if there is more +EV in checking/betting the river? he can't really call with much any hand here (maybe KK right?)

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if you want to get 300bb in then you need to just make your bets/raises bigger... a few big bets generally get less respect than lots of smaller bets that add up to the same amount

I don't see much need for balance on the fourbet pf... the only reason you'd be fourbet bluffing is if he's getting seriously out of line with his threebets, and if the guy is frequently overbetting the pot by so much without the goods then you're already in very good shape because his bluffs there have to work such a huge percentage of the time just for him to breakeven on them.

edit: referring to using balance as the justification for the sizing. if the sizing of your bluffs is interfering with the play of your non-bluffs, then you might want to adjust your bluffs to fit with your legit hands rather than vice versa